(November 1, 2020 at 3:57 pm)a fireaonlinebiker Wrote:(November 1, 2020 at 2:00 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I’m not getting across, so I’ll try again.
Let’s say that once you pass whatever vetting process is in place to buy your first gun, all vetting for future gun purchases should be waived. In other words, once someone is determined to be a law abiding citizen, we can presume that they are ALWAYS going to be a law abiding citizen (please correct me if that’s not what you’re saying).
Sorry to be blunt, but that’s just flat out one of the stupidest positions I’ve ever heard. m
Boru
We subscribe here to this silly theory - it's called "innocent til proven guilty".
You want the opposite.
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You want gun owners to prove that they will never be a threat - which is bullshit...NOBODY can prove future actions. They can only recite the story that the "approving agency" wants to hear.
I would prefer it if we just restrict the rights of those problem children who have already proven themselves unworthy.
A one time background check would be an acceptable compromise - though I doubt it's effectiveness.
Of course no one can prove future actions, so lucky for me that’s not what I’m saying. I’m not remotely suggesting restricting gun ownership based on what someone might do in the future, but on what they’ve already done.
This seems to be pretty much what you’re suggesting. The chief difference is that I think it should be done more than once, because of what people may do in the interval between gun purchases. And I agree with you that a one-time background check is unlikely to be effective, for the same reason.
Here’s a not very hypothetical that may illustrate what I’m getting at:
At age 25, Joe buys his first pistol. The background check is fine - he’s not a felon, not illegal, he’s none of the things that would preclude him from owning a firearm. Two years later, Joe leaves his gun on the coffee table, where his six year old son finds it and shoots himself in the head, which kills him instantly. A police report is filed, but the courts decline to prosecute Joe - it was a horrible, tragic accident. If Joe doesn’t go through another background check prior to his next gun purchase, the state will have allowed a person who has proved himself unfit to own a firearm to buy one.
Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson