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Hillbilly Elegy
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RE: Hillbilly Elegy
(December 1, 2020 at 10:59 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The forks thing is a movie trope commonly used as a placeholder for class and class anxiety, and class inferiority - exactly as it was in this movie.  

You didn't miss the authors politics, the director left them out - which is a blessing and a shame.   A blessing because he's a nutball who wrote that caricature of imaginary hillbillys to explain why the right was going full on trumpet, and a shame because it just doesn't make any sense without it.

-and by sense, I only mean that it makes sense that the author wrote his characters a particular way, when you understand that it was a prologue morality play to his comments about a culture in decline.  

There's nothing offensive about a persons desire for self improvement and vances story is most certainly not true as told.

You could certainly be correct about the fork incident, but as I said, I know people who have experienced this exact thing or something nearly identical, so it is not inaccurate.  Are you saying that its an over used cliché, because I can relate to that.  Perhaps it would be better to not use such shorthand and demonstrate his discomfort in a better way.

You may be referring more to the book than the film because I also didn't see the connection between the people/culture of the film and devotion to Trump.  But let's be clear, Trump does have this segment of the population eating out of his hand.  I just didn't see the film really explaining that; perhaps the book did attempt that.

What makes you say Vance's story is not true?  Are there other sources that conflict?
Why is it so?
~Julius Sumner Miller
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Hillbilly Elegy - by Spongebob - December 1, 2020 at 9:34 am
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by Foxaèr - December 1, 2020 at 9:37 am
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by The Grand Nudger - December 1, 2020 at 9:54 am
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by Spongebob - December 1, 2020 at 10:51 am
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by Foxaèr - December 1, 2020 at 9:57 am
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by Ranjr - December 1, 2020 at 10:51 am
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by The Grand Nudger - December 1, 2020 at 10:59 am
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by Spongebob - December 1, 2020 at 11:16 am
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 1, 2020 at 11:57 am
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by The Grand Nudger - December 1, 2020 at 12:00 pm
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by Spongebob - December 1, 2020 at 2:34 pm
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by arewethereyet - December 1, 2020 at 2:05 pm
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by The Grand Nudger - December 1, 2020 at 2:50 pm
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by Spongebob - December 1, 2020 at 3:24 pm
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by Ranjr - December 1, 2020 at 3:13 pm
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by The Grand Nudger - December 1, 2020 at 3:53 pm
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by Ranjr - December 1, 2020 at 4:34 pm
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by The Grand Nudger - December 1, 2020 at 4:42 pm
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by Ranjr - December 1, 2020 at 5:00 pm
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by The Grand Nudger - December 1, 2020 at 5:50 pm
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by Ranjr - December 1, 2020 at 7:14 pm
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by The Grand Nudger - December 1, 2020 at 7:38 pm
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by Ranjr - December 1, 2020 at 8:29 pm
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by The Grand Nudger - December 2, 2020 at 9:45 am
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by Foxaèr - December 2, 2020 at 9:52 am
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by The Grand Nudger - December 2, 2020 at 9:56 am
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by Spongebob - December 6, 2020 at 11:03 am
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by Foxaèr - December 6, 2020 at 11:12 am
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by Spongebob - December 6, 2020 at 1:27 pm
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by Ranjr - December 6, 2020 at 2:06 pm
RE: Hillbilly Elegy - by The Grand Nudger - December 6, 2020 at 3:03 pm



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