RE: The United States of inclusivity
December 7, 2020 at 10:11 pm
(This post was last modified: December 7, 2020 at 10:11 pm by Belacqua.)
(December 7, 2020 at 10:00 pm)Apollo Wrote:(December 7, 2020 at 9:43 pm)Belacqua Wrote: Does anything in this survey support your idea that the hijab is a symbol of patriarchal oppression?
Not really but my purpose was to show its predominance—for rest I am sure you can google all the way going back to hadiths, traditions, and present days laws in various countries if interested.
To demonstrate that such modesty is patriarchal oppression, you'd need evidence and testimony from the people who follow these customs.
I am not willing to accept the word of western liberals who assume that it's oppression.
The amount that a person has to cover his or her body in public varies widely from culture to culture, and tends to be based more on cultural norms than on explicit religious dictates.
France is a traditionally Catholic country, but women in the south of France are a lot more comfortable going topless than in other Catholic countries. Someone who went topless into a Walmart in Nebraska would get arrested. Is this due to greater patriarchal oppression? 100 years ago in Japan, women doing certain jobs would go topless. 30 years ago Japanese TV had topless women in prime time. No more. Yet other indicators (e.g. # of women in the work force) indicates less patriarchal oppression. So the social norms indicating what parts of the body can be shown vary by time and place, may change relatively quickly, and are often not at all perceived by women as being oppression.
That's why we'd need to know the opinions of the Muslim women wearing hijabs before we judged it by our own standards.