RE: Was the condemnation of man justified?
December 8, 2020 at 5:00 pm
(This post was last modified: December 8, 2020 at 5:06 pm by Greatest I am.)
(December 8, 2020 at 4:06 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:To many Christians, given that the intelligentsia, old and new, called Gnostic Christians the only good Christians, that would make me quite evil to the less than good Christians.(December 7, 2020 at 3:09 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: Was the condemnation of man justified?Maybe they have been - maybe you're the worlds worst person...but even if you were, that wouldn't actually mean that someone else condemning you for it were in the moral clear, nor would being in the moral clear on that put vicarious redemption in the moral clear.
If not justified, Jesus was not required to ask us to do evil by accepting human sacrifice.
I do not recall any of my many sins ever being bad enough to earn condemnation.
Every sin I, and likely you, ever made, has been forgiven.
For god to condemn me, and most of you, would be unjust.
I am innocent. Are you?
Regards
DL
I do mot recognize a need for my redemption. The only thing I have ever wanted to be saved from was thinking in the immoral way Christians do.
Regards
DL
(December 8, 2020 at 4:08 pm)Grandizer Wrote: OP, depends on the premises you're willing to accept as true.
If man is indeed trapped in sin, and God is just and all that jazz, then one could argue that the condemnation of man is indeed justified. And for the Christian, the way out is via a redemptive act by the divine.
That premise is what Christians have a problem with.
They bad mouth sin, while contradicting themselves by singing that Adam's sin was a happy fault and necessary to god's plan.
If necessary to god, one would think that the god people would be all in for sin.
They are too poorly educated to be able to do apologetics from their own dogma.
Nature created us to sin or do evil to losers when we compete, but if we did not compete as we evolve, our evolution would end and we would likely go extinct.
Regards
DL