Was the condemnation of man justified?

[Angrboda]

Here's the thing, Champ, reality does get a vote, and reality shows you talking out your ass with bullshit and falsehoods, as usual.

I don't need to experience anything in a similar fashion if the way you experience it is wrong, as has been shown multiple times.

if you are to judge something, then yes you have to have knowledge/experience of it. otherwise it is you who is proven to be talking out her ass.

Yeah, we started talking about doctrine, and now you've worked around to claiming that if I don't know your heretical beliefs from the inside, then I'm wrong about that. All you've shown is that you can't follow the point and end up saying stupid things like this. Your beliefs don't define doctrine, so whether I do or do not have experience with your experience means dick. I know doctrine and I know heresy when I hear it, as I've shown multiple times. All you know how to do is spew ignorant nonsense.

Point in fact, this was what you asked:

are we to take a self admitted nonbelievers word on what is and is not doctrine?

The wine in this case is DOCTRINE. Your personal experiences mean fuckall here. The only person talking out of their ass here is you.