RE: The Watchmaker: my fav argument
March 13, 2021 at 9:26 am
(This post was last modified: March 13, 2021 at 9:27 am by Angrboda.)
(March 13, 2021 at 2:59 am)Belacqua Wrote:[emphasis mine](March 13, 2021 at 2:41 am)Angrboda Wrote: and you, supposedly agreeing with him, argued that the emptiness of the oceans was to prevent us exploring and exploiting them.
No, I never said that. Please don't make up shit that I didn't say.
It is clear that, lacking gills, we can't comfortably live in the oceans as we do in the open air. But I never said we were "prevented from exploring or exploiting them." We obviously have done that. In fact we've exploited them too much. If the oceans die we die too.
(March 10, 2021 at 5:19 pm)Belacqua Wrote: There used to be a quote going around among the anti-religion people, about how the earth couldn't be designed because so much of it is ocean. The argument, I guess, is that because people can't live on water then the ocean is wasted space.....I think that idea is pretty much over now. We know that if the oceans die then people will, too.[emphasis mine]
(March 13, 2021 at 4:10 am)Belacqua Wrote:(March 13, 2021 at 3:57 am)Angrboda Wrote: Funny how in all those words you managed to skip over the part about you not having made a valid argument about Apollo's point, aside from that you can't know what you don't know
That's not the argument I made. Please stop making shit up.
(March 10, 2021 at 8:27 am)Belacqua Wrote:[emphasis mine](March 9, 2021 at 10:49 pm)Apollo Wrote: That’s what a typical place looks like in universe. Big cold with nothing happening.
If that’s some design then the designer flunked big time.
[....] The universe is very big and lasts a long time. Humans, on the other hand, occupy only a tiny fraction of the universe in time and space. We know extremely little about the universe. We evolved for survival, not understanding. There is probably all kinds of stuff going on that people don't know about, and probably can't know about. Who's to say that the places not welcoming to us are "failures" in every sense? We don't have enough information to judge.
The Christian God is human-centric, Bel. If you're arguing about some other god, let us know, because if the design isn't human-centric then it wasn't made by that god.