RE: The Watchmaker: my fav argument
March 13, 2021 at 7:32 pm
(This post was last modified: March 13, 2021 at 7:35 pm by Belacqua.)
(March 13, 2021 at 9:26 am)Angrboda Wrote: The Christian God is human-centric, Bel. If you're arguing about some other god, let us know, because if the design isn't human-centric then it wasn't made by that god.
I don't know why you're putting some of my sentences into bold type. I remember what I wrote.
As for the Christian God being human-centric, that's true. I have never said I am talking specifically about the Christian God. That's something you assumed.
The topic here is if there were a designer God, would the universe look different. There are many many concepts of what a creator God would be like.
I understand that when many people on this forum use the word "God" or even "religion" they are talking about a very specific modern American-style literalist Christianity, of the type that TV evangelists represent. That's a narrow view.
In addition, we can think about the cosmology of some Christians in the past. For Dante, for example, the vast majority of the created universe is not inhabitable by people. From the bottom of the sphere of the moon to the top of the sphere of the fixed stars, there is no air and no one could live there. This is by far the greatest percentage of space in the universe, according to that model. So even for Christians who see their religion as human-centric, the percentage of space that's usable by humans may be quite small.
(March 13, 2021 at 3:16 pm)Apollo Wrote: What I have maintained throughout this thread is that design is an anthropomorphic notion. When we talk about a designer we inevitably talk about intent and purpose—we can call this intent and purpose human-centric [...]What makes you think that a creator God, if it existed, would be human-centric? Are you a Christian?