(March 20, 2021 at 9:54 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Very well, we may disagree on some details but I'd like to address another argument that you made earlier:
(March 19, 2021 at 2:54 pm)polymath257 Wrote: But, to go further and claim the universe at large is designed goes *way* beyond what we can observe.
And you know that because? Your argument mirrors that of the behaviorists which claimed cognition was an unobservable black box—that's no longer true. From atoms to the neuron doctrine, science is full of once unobservable entities that had to be inferred. Your inability to think of an observation has no bearing on the question.
But what we CAN observe about the universe doesn’t logically lead to an inference of design. Observation leads to the inference that the universe wasn’t designed, but evolved. The only way to claim the universe is designed is to admit ignorance, which is what creationists always do.
‘If the universe was deliberately designed, why do species go extinct? Shouldn’t a perfect Creator have designed them to be able to cope with issues like habitat loss or changes in climate?’
‘That’s God’s plan.’
‘Seems kind of slipshod, doesn’t it?’
‘Well, God’s ways are mysterious. We can possibly know why he does things the way he does.’
Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson