RE: Who was Jesus?
August 15, 2021 at 11:54 pm
(This post was last modified: August 16, 2021 at 12:02 am by Bucky Ball.)
It was an age of miracle-workers.
Miracle-workers were a dime a dozen in ancient Palestine. Literacy was low, and "miracle" worked just as well as any explanation.
Even Josephus tried to convince people the Roman Emperor Vespasian worked miracles, (and that he was the Messiah).
Jesus went to his death because in the Pax Romana, there was a standing order that trouble-makers get executed. No trial. (The trials in the gospels are all very different).
Wandering peasant preachers, (there were many), didn't get trials before Roman aristocrats.
Jesus (according to the gospels) caused a ruckus in the temple. The temple-economy was THE central basis of the the economy of Jerusalem.
Jesus threatened that. The role of a messiah was never to die for anyone's sins. That's just later made-up clap trap.
There is no reason to assume that a Jew, (Jesus) had any other notion of what the role of a messiah was. The church invented salvation and "died for our sins", MUCH later.
In Acts, the apostles ask him, "Wilt thou O Lord, at this time restore the Kingdom to Israel". Even THEY thought the Jewish messiah idea was correct.
Miracle-workers were a dime a dozen in ancient Palestine. Literacy was low, and "miracle" worked just as well as any explanation.
Even Josephus tried to convince people the Roman Emperor Vespasian worked miracles, (and that he was the Messiah).
Jesus went to his death because in the Pax Romana, there was a standing order that trouble-makers get executed. No trial. (The trials in the gospels are all very different).
Wandering peasant preachers, (there were many), didn't get trials before Roman aristocrats.
Jesus (according to the gospels) caused a ruckus in the temple. The temple-economy was THE central basis of the the economy of Jerusalem.
Jesus threatened that. The role of a messiah was never to die for anyone's sins. That's just later made-up clap trap.
There is no reason to assume that a Jew, (Jesus) had any other notion of what the role of a messiah was. The church invented salvation and "died for our sins", MUCH later.
In Acts, the apostles ask him, "Wilt thou O Lord, at this time restore the Kingdom to Israel". Even THEY thought the Jewish messiah idea was correct.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell 
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