(August 18, 2021 at 5:20 pm)Ahriman Wrote:(August 18, 2021 at 5:17 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: There are scientific studies that conclusively demonstrate prayer doesn't work. Those who think otherwise are delusional.Well Jesus isn't God. He can only do so much.
One person's opinion is nothing but anecdotes. It's not evidence. Correlation is not causation.
There is one that shows that New York heart surgery patients who get prayed for, do worse than those who have no prayers.
Actually the "do unto others " thing actually was around in Hebrew thought before Jesus, (it was not his idea),
but it wasn't really popular until after the temple was destroyed, and later when the rabbis were trying to figure out where Judaism was
going with no temple, and certainly after Jerusalem was destroyed in the bar Kochba revolt and no "center" at all left.
So then, not Jesus.
Thank you.
He did say if you ask for anything in his name, it would be given. You think the Haitians are not praying ?
Jesus said he was God. Was he telling porkies?
Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson