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Energy As The Essence of Sentience
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RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience
(January 10, 2023 at 8:53 am)Authari Wrote:
(January 10, 2023 at 8:33 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: Dude, you blew your brains out with dope.

I don't hate God because I find it impossible to hate a fictional character.
Naturally you can't explain just how I managed to find God so your explanation is 'he blew his brains out', and that nothing good comes from marijuana, and you insist on calling it 'dope' meaning you already have negative views of it in the first place.

You have told us that you found God by means of a hallucinogenic herb. We're just taking you at your word.

(January 10, 2023 at 8:53 am)Authari Wrote: If you respected it you would not call it 'dope'. And I find its quite often that people hate fictional characters Joffrey that young character in Game of Thrones was most universally 'hated' by everyone probably including you.

You were correct to put 'hated' in scare quotes. Fictional characters can be 'hated' for their fictional deeds or for being poorly writtn. But Joffry never really did anything to anyone, so the most hatred anyone can feel for him is 'hatred'.

(January 10, 2023 at 8:53 am)Authari Wrote: So its actually very easy to hate a fictional character.

And the honest scare quotes conveniently disappear.

(January 10, 2023 at 8:53 am)Authari Wrote: No I think you not only hate God, you're actually afraid that one day you might end up believing in God again. There are after all so many atheists who were atheists for over a decade (such as myself) who ended up believing in God after we grew out of our childish misgivings against him.

Misgivings against God have no bearing on whether God is real. I have misgivings about Joffrey, that has no bearing on whether or not Joffrey is real. If I found out Joffrey was secretly a good guy all along, or completely reformed, I wouldn't suddenly start thinking Joffrey is real. That would be inane. If I found out that Joffrey was a real historical person that RR stole whole cloth, but the real Joffrey was even worse than the fictional one, I would accept the existence of the real, historical Joffrey if historians agreed he was real.

If God was as portrayed in the Bible, vindictive and arguably incompetent, I would believe in him if he made his existence objectively clear. It would be hard to worship him sincerely, but I'd have to believe he's real.

If God was a lovey-dovey hippie of impecable character doing the best he can in a big universe but has limitations on its power that keep it from making everything great but is still the most powerful being there is...I wouldn't be any more likely to believe it's real if it doesn't make it's existence objectively clear.

Misgivings or the lack thereof are irrelevant to whether I believe something is real.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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Messages In This Thread
Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - December 30, 2022 at 7:03 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by LinuxGal - December 30, 2022 at 8:15 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 30, 2022 at 8:16 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Angrboda - December 30, 2022 at 8:19 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - December 30, 2022 at 8:28 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Angrboda - December 30, 2022 at 8:47 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - December 30, 2022 at 9:01 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Angrboda - December 30, 2022 at 9:10 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Gwaithmir - January 8, 2023 at 11:33 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by zebo-the-fat - December 30, 2022 at 8:20 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Fake Messiah - December 30, 2022 at 8:24 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by LinuxGal - December 30, 2022 at 9:13 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Anomalocaris - December 30, 2022 at 8:23 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Anomalocaris - December 30, 2022 at 8:30 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - December 30, 2022 at 8:48 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Angrboda - December 30, 2022 at 8:49 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 30, 2022 at 9:31 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - December 30, 2022 at 9:36 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 30, 2022 at 9:55 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Mister Agenda - December 30, 2022 at 11:00 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - December 30, 2022 at 11:09 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Mister Agenda - December 30, 2022 at 11:17 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - December 30, 2022 at 11:27 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Mister Agenda - December 30, 2022 at 11:30 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - December 30, 2022 at 11:51 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by LinuxGal - December 30, 2022 at 12:08 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Jehanne - December 30, 2022 at 5:12 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Mister Agenda - January 13, 2023 at 11:07 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Objectivist - January 7, 2023 at 1:44 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Anomalocaris - December 30, 2022 at 9:47 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - December 30, 2022 at 9:49 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Anomalocaris - December 30, 2022 at 9:54 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - December 30, 2022 at 9:58 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Anomalocaris - December 30, 2022 at 10:03 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by arewethereyet - December 30, 2022 at 9:57 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - December 30, 2022 at 10:09 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by arewethereyet - December 30, 2022 at 10:03 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Angrboda - December 30, 2022 at 10:38 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Deesse23 - December 30, 2022 at 11:21 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Peebothuhlu - December 30, 2022 at 11:43 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Ravenshire - December 30, 2022 at 2:52 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Nay_Sayer - December 30, 2022 at 8:40 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Objectivist - January 7, 2023 at 1:35 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Anomalocaris - January 7, 2023 at 2:44 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Tomatoshadow2 - January 9, 2023 at 4:38 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - January 9, 2023 at 6:07 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Anomalocaris - January 9, 2023 at 6:33 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Gwaithmir - January 10, 2023 at 8:33 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - January 10, 2023 at 8:53 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Mister Agenda - January 10, 2023 at 10:30 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - January 10, 2023 at 10:47 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Mister Agenda - January 10, 2023 at 10:53 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - January 10, 2023 at 11:02 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Mister Agenda - January 12, 2023 at 10:54 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Gwaithmir - January 11, 2023 at 10:39 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Anomalocaris - January 11, 2023 at 10:38 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Gwaithmir - January 12, 2023 at 8:14 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Anomalocaris - January 10, 2023 at 8:56 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by arewethereyet - January 10, 2023 at 11:05 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - January 10, 2023 at 11:19 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 10, 2023 at 11:30 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - January 10, 2023 at 11:53 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 10, 2023 at 12:21 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by The Grand Nudger - January 10, 2023 at 11:43 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Tomatoshadow2 - January 10, 2023 at 11:56 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Authari - January 10, 2023 at 12:22 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 10, 2023 at 12:24 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Paleophyte - January 11, 2023 at 9:49 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Tomatoshadow2 - January 10, 2023 at 11:59 am
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by The Grand Nudger - January 10, 2023 at 12:27 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by arewethereyet - January 10, 2023 at 2:03 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by GUBU - January 10, 2023 at 8:38 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by Anomalocaris - January 10, 2023 at 10:27 pm
RE: Energy As The Essence of Sentience - by The Grand Nudger - January 12, 2023 at 11:23 am

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