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Question for freethinkers
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RE: Question for freethinkers
(June 4, 2011 at 6:29 pm)Pel Wrote: Let's say someone proves to you there is God, but that proof doesn't tell you anything about him. How would you describe him by looking at the existence. I am asking you to pretend. It's same as if you asked me what would be the reasons for you to say maybe there is no God. Like things that have tested my faith. I understand this is a hard task. Thanks

Nor does it tell you anything about her. (note your error about gender, since your proof tells you nothing, either.)

If the proof doesn't tell you anything about her (or him, or them), then it doesn't tell you anything about her. Therefore, it is not a proof, since a proof actually tells you something about what is proven.

And your anecdotal story about how your faith was tested is not a proof, either. It could also be a misinterpretation. You have not proved that faith can be tested, or that she would even want to test your faith. You assume it is and can be, and that is not a proof, nor evidence.

Given that, it doesn't disprove to you your he is really a she and a he, and are really Goddess and God. (Christians can't see the reality of this dualism though, they seem to be stuck on their -proof-, er Bible that God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and Satan are all male, and therefore possibly gay.) Nor does the non-proof say anything else, such as a crucifixion myth or Biblical inerrancy or any other nonsense which comes from people imagining what their particular god might be like, then imposing that with a penalty of death on unbelievers, or for being gay. (Don't do as I do, do as I say. Or else.)

Actually, it is not hard at all.

Such imaginings are dangerous when the dreamers get real political power.

Hail Eris. Fnord. (Why isn't "fnord" in the speller?)

"Be ye not lost amongst Precept of Order." - Book of Uterus, 1:5, "Principia Discordia, or How I Found Goddess and What I Did to Her When I Found Her."
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Question for freethinkers - by Pel - June 4, 2011 at 6:14 pm
RE: Question for freethinkers - by Violet - June 4, 2011 at 6:15 pm
RE: Question for freethinkers - by Darwinian - June 4, 2011 at 6:17 pm
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RE: Question for freethinkers - by Pel - June 4, 2011 at 6:29 pm
RE: Question for freethinkers - by bozo - June 4, 2011 at 6:32 pm
RE: Question for freethinkers - by Rev. Rye - June 5, 2011 at 11:44 am
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