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It's not a trick. I'm sorry you don't like being called a bigot. Perhaps the connotation is a bit much for you? How about we say we're both prejudiced. The point was about what you're targeting, actions or ideas.
Your reason are irrelevant as I said so point one is out the window.

Let’s make sure I don’t misunderstand then. Call it bigotry, prejudice if you like. My reasons are concerned with actions and beliefs. Though most importantly to do with actions. So long as my ‘bigotry’ with religion has equal validity with your ‘bigotry’ of child molesters I am satisfied.

Point 2. I'm sorry you have felt guilt all of your life. I'm sorry you were taught things as a child you no longer agree with. I'm sure it causes you emotional pain. Could you please explain how someone can make you feel something. Bottom line, you believed something, you now don't. I understand you placing some responsibility on them, how long did you still believe after age 7-8? Do you accept personal responsibility for that? They shared their beliefs, you believed , now you don't and feel slighted? scornful? guilty? Even if they did more than just share their beliefs I don't see that as justifying hatred towards all Christians.

Missing the point by several miles. The stuff I was taught should not have been taught to me until I was old enough to think about it critically. Neither you, nor anyone, have the right to teach this dangerous, awful stuff to children. It is little short of child abuse. Your ‘sorry’ is welcome but not needed. Stop continuing the practice is what‘s needed.

By all means you can proselytise when they are old enough. Preach away to your heart’s content. I doubt you will get anywhere, but it would be fun to watch.

I understand you placing some responsibility on them

No. I place all responsibility on them. Of course I believed. I trusted what adults told me. I was too young to see that it was nonsense. That’s what this point is all about. You are using your adulthood to abuse children with these ideas. Wait until they are of an age then try.
If you want to teach them moral values tell them it’s good to do good things. Not because you get to heaven if you’re good or hell if you’re bad. Tell them to be moral because it’s the right thing to do. Tell them to be moral because it’s the human thing to do. Leave the god shit out until they are older, otherwise it’s abuse.

Do you accept personal responsibility for that?

Why the hell should I take responsibility for something that was done to me without my consent?

They shared their beliefs, you believed , now you don't and feel slighted? scornful? guilty?

No. They forced their ideas down my throat when I was unable to resist. They did it with ‘kindness’ and they thought they were doing the ‘right’ thing. So what, It was still abuse.

Even if they did more than just share their beliefs I don't see that as justifying hatred towards all Christians

I think you are demonstrating precisely why. Despite what I’ve explained to you, you still think that you are not an abuser. You still have no doubt that inflicting this stuff on young children is a good thing. I think you are probably one of the ‘nicer’ ones, but look at what you are doing. Can you see my justification now? You are simply taking the standpoint that your beliefs are benign, they aren’t. There’s plenty of evidence for malignancy. Inflicting this garbage on young children cannot be called ‘sharing beliefs’. Please get that misconception out of your head.

Be clear you're an antitheist, which is just as irrational as the kkk

Absolutely no doubt about it, antitheist. Absolutely rational. Stop throwing out gratuitous red herrings.
Here’s some rationale
There is no evidence for god, anymore than there is evidence for pink unicorns.
“lack of evidence is evidence of lack”
Your Christianity does plenty of harm by the actions of its members base on the holy book.
E.g. hatred of gays. Inspired by your holy book.
Your holy book is inconsistent with reality and inconsistent with itself on virtually every page. You’re teaching it as if it’s real.

Point 3. Speaking of the KKK I have no problems with them as people or individuals. I don't personally know anyone sho is publicly, but it wouldn't really affect my opinions of them. I however will have a lesser opinion of them if they show racism, intolerance and hatred (individually). That doesn't mean I automatically hate all KKK members, which is what you're under the assumption I do, because of your comparison. Even if I thought that all KKK members, were racists and bigots I still couldn't hate them all for just their beliefs. If every single one went curb checking black people then I would probably have a reason to hate each one, that's an action, that I could hate. Raising more little racist bastards is a reason to pity them, not hate them, IMO.

What’s this? Theist dodgeball. The five ‘D’ of theist dodgeball Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive and… Dodge.
“Beliefs guide our actions”. If you think they don’t, then you are being irrational.





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