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And, of course.....
January 6, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Herr Von Popenfuhrer just named this scumbag a "cardinal."
http://www.euronews.net/2011/12/17/catho...e-scandal/
Quote:Bishop Wim Eijk was at the press conference expressing his regret: “The offenders are not the only ones to blame. The authorities are also at fault. They didn’t act properly. They didn’t take care of the victims or give priority to the victims’ interests.”
Apparently he doesn't think that he's one of the "authorities."
http://apnews.excite.com/article/2012010...IJOG2.html
Quote:The 18 new cardinals under 80 are:
Santos Abril y Castello, (Spanish), Archpriest of the Basilica of St. Mary Major
George Alencherry, (Indian), Major Archbishop of the Syro-Malabar Church in India
Giuseppe Bertello, (Italian), President of the Government of the Vatican City State
Giuseppe Bettori, (Italian), Archbishop of Florence
Joao Braz de Aviz, (Brazil), Prefect of the Congregation for Religious
Domenico Calcagno, (Italian), President of the Apostolic Patrimony of the Holy See
Francesco Coccopalmerio, (Italian), President of the Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts
Thomas Collins, (Canadian), Archbishop of Toronto
Timothy Dolan, (United States) Archbishop of New York
Dominik Duka, (Czech), Archbishop of Prague
Wim Eijk, (Dutch), Archbishop of Utrecht
Fernando Filoni, (Italian), Prefect of the Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples
Antonio Maria Veglio, (Italian), President of the Pontifical Council for Migrants and Refugees
Manuel Monteiro de Castro, (Portuguese), Major Penitentiary of the Apostolic Penitentiary
Edwin O'Brien, (United States), Grand Master of the Order of the Holy Sepulchre
John Tong Hon, (Chinese), Bishop of Hong Kong
Giuseppe Versaldi, (Italian), President of the Prefecture for the Economic Affairs of the Holy See
Rainer Maria Woelki, (German), Archbishop of Berlin
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RE: And, of course.....
January 6, 2012 at 3:39 pm
(This post was last modified: January 6, 2012 at 3:39 pm by frankiej.)
The catholic church loves to give praise to their criminals... Oh, wait a minute, they are all criminals.
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RE: And, of course.....
January 6, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Bloody f***in hell!! I agree with Billy Connolly, the WORLDWIDE spread of sex abuse by Catholic priests should be a United Nations issue!
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RE: And, of course.....
January 6, 2012 at 6:50 pm
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(January 6, 2012 at 3:39 pm)frankiej Wrote: The catholic church loves to give praise to their criminals... Oh, wait a minute, they are all criminals.
I was going to say that's not true,that I know quite few priests who are not criminals.
The truth is I DO know quite a few priests I have no reason to suspect of criminal behaviour. They SEEM like perfectly good decent men.BUT I have no way of knowing for a fact if they are criminals.Pretty sure most priests who went around buggering little boys were/are not suspected by their flocks either.(a wonderfully apt metaphor;sheep are easily led and sublimely stupid))
However,without evidence, I'm obliged to give them the benefit of the doubt (that's called 'the presumption of innocence') 
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RE: And, of course.....
January 6, 2012 at 8:03 pm
"Every pulpit is a pillory, in which stands a hired culprit, defending the justice of his own imprisonment." -- Robert Ingersoll, Individuality, 1873
Little has changed since Col Ingersoll's day it seems, except that the crimes undoubtedly are far worse than any he could have had in mind.
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RE: And, of course.....
January 6, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Quote:I was going to say that's not true,that I know quite few priests who are not criminals.
That isn't the problem with them though, Pad. Its a small club and I find it hard - okay, impossible - to believe that even the ones who weren't fucking children did not know what was going on. People are never as discreet as they think they are.
Their crime is remaining silent in the face of this outrage.
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RE: And, of course.....
January 7, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Just when they start dying off... They have to go make more don't they? Fuck!
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RE: And, of course.....
January 7, 2012 at 4:01 pm
(This post was last modified: January 7, 2012 at 4:01 pm by TheDarkestOfAngels.)
I'm honestly at the point to where I'm surprised that the priests/cardinals don't just come out and say:
"Well it's the children's fault for dressing so sexy."
But they're getting closer with each press release.
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RE: And, of course.....
January 7, 2012 at 4:23 pm
To finish his twisted statement:
"The authorities are also at fault. They didn’t act properly. They didn’t take care of the victims or give priority to the victims’ interests. They didn't anticipate we would cover up any child abuse scandal."
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RE: And, of course.....
January 7, 2012 at 5:46 pm
(January 7, 2012 at 4:01 pm)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote: I'm honestly at the point to where I'm surprised that the priests/cardinals don't just come out and say:
"Well it's the children's fault for dressing so sexy."
But they're getting closer with each press release.
Oh they've already played that card:
Tenerife Catholic bishop blames child abuse on the children
Cleric 'blamed teenage victim'
'Sexually harassed' - by 4-year-old girl
Also I seem to remember something about this "blame the victim" excuse that was leaked from higher up in the church and the outcry resulting from it but I'm having difficulty tracking it down.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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