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(January 28, 2012 at 11:09 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: Can I forward you to some links to a gentleman called Hamza Tzortziz? He is a Greek Convert to Islam and usually debates with Atheists.
By 'debates with atheists' what you mean, of course, is 'accosts them in the street'. Such as the time in Dublin last year when he got his arse handed back to him, steaming on a plate, on the subject of embryolgy in the Kerrang by P Z Myers whom he didn't realise was an embryologist:
He was also played like a pinball machine on The Magic Sandwich Show in June of last year:
In short, Tzortzis is the Ray Cumfart of the Muslim camp. He really ought to invest in a red plastic nose to identify him as the clown he is.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
This is really scholarly written. I suggest everyone to read it. It provides evidence about the moonsplit. PLEASE PLEASE do read them. I'm begging you to read them. Why? because you claim you want evidence then I will give you evidence which are in those two links!
Like I said, I beg you to read those articles so we can discuss them here.
Oh and Hamza had a bad day. Look at Adam Deen, he is excellant. Like I said the converts to Islam surely can not be wrong.
This is really scholarly written. I suggest everyone to read it. It provides evidence about the moonsplit. PLEASE PLEASE do read them. I'm begging you to read them. Why? because you claim you want evidence then I will give you evidence which are in those two links!
Like I said, I beg you to read those articles so we can discuss them here.
Oh and Hamza had a bad day. Look at Adam Deen, he is excellant. Like I said the converts to Islam surely can not be wrong.
Ahh, The Special Pleading Fallacy and The Appeal to Authority fallacy.
You only beg us to read because you know all your have is scare tactics and propaganda to indoctrinate people to believe your religion of choice. Why didnt you grow up a Christian? because of the region you were born in, not that there's one correct religion, but that religion is a matter of geography. Do you realize theres 1000s of god stories with mutaully excluscive answers? and they cant all be right but they can all be wrong... Do you not see that Islam has ruined the middle east? they were on the verge of great scientific and medical breakthroughs before Islam swept through the Middle East and dumbed people down to bigoted shills. If anything we should be begging you to read a damn Science book and read up on things like Cosmology, Astronomy, Biology before you consider doing something crazy like declaring jihad on someone you consider "evil" for something mundane like drawing muhammed or uncovering a womans face.
(January 29, 2012 at 6:02 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: Like I said the converts to Islam surely can not be wrong.
You keep saying that. So does that mean you think the Catholics/Christians/Mormons etc. are right too? Because they certainly have their fair share of converts. They also believe that their "holy book"s were written by eye witnesses who had no reason to lie - there was no promise of fame or wealth for them either. If anything, they were opening themselves up to persecution.
Asserting something over and over and using an appeal to popularity does not make what you're saying true. It just makes you look ignorant.
"No-one who decides that scientific evidence is not for him and that his own experience or the stories of others is the be all and end all of deciding what's true ever has the right to call people searching for reliable, repeatable evidence narrow-minded. That is hypocrisy of the most laughable kind." Derren Brown - Tricks of the Mind.
January 29, 2012 at 6:19 pm (This post was last modified: January 29, 2012 at 6:20 pm by Oldandeasilyconfused.)
Quote:Allah was just a tad bit more agreeable to me than Jehovah was. Which places him just on the surface of pond scum.
Minor quibble; A'llhah (literally,the God) IS YHWH,albeit in a slightly better mood.
Judaism,Christianity and Islam worship the same god. Collectively they are called 'the Abrahamic religions',as they all trace their origins to the prophet Abraham.
January 29, 2012 at 6:25 pm (This post was last modified: January 29, 2012 at 6:27 pm by Cosmic Ape.)
(January 29, 2012 at 6:19 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: I want thoughts on my links please. Oh and Biblical authors are unknown.
You just want us to read it? what exactly are you hoping for? "oh we've seen the light, we are made from a clot on blood on a rag and women are not as good as men, i believe in islam hooray!!!" you really want conversions like that? with no thought involved? no investigation? no means of even testing that god-tale, just to "take the safe route" and double down on the off chance that its true? thats so disingenuous, let alone not to responding to my first post to you.
And we dont need to read links from uncredible people with outlandish opinions of reality based in the dark ages. Science > Religion.
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