First Vaccinations...now this.

[MrSkeptic]

Hey, look on the bright side: Ebola is a virus that is way too efficient for its own good. It kills its victim before it has a chance to spread.

But, Irukandji; that's a disease that can really be considered a legit argument against the existence of God.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK_Cl_54Qh8

You're absolutely right! Ebola (thankfully for us) kills too fast and too often for it to be a real threat. Never heard of irukandji before, will look it up when I finish work!

[Autumnlicious]

Oh, for the love of fruit loops. The "invisible hand of the market" is a phrase used to describe the benefits of a free market by proponents of it. It has nothing to do with a god, it is meant to describe the supposed self-correcting nature of a free market.

Except that you are wrong, in that "self correcting nature" is a misnomer.

What you really mean to state, is the apparent value of any good is dependent, as a function, on supply and demand, to put it bluntly.

There is no "self correction" unless gravity is "self correcting"...

That said, if there is an invisible hand, someone should tell it to stop feeling everyone up.

[RW_9]

Except that you are wrong, in that "self correcting nature" is a misnomer.

Hence me saying "supposed" before it.

[Bgood]

I totally agree that there are major problems with capitalism for sure. I would mention Michael Moore's doc film "Capitalism: A Love Story" as a excellent critque of the capitalistic system, AS A WHOLE. But I think many of you equate this with the free market. So if you don't like Ron Paul's message because he supports 'capitalism' is a ridiculous leg to stand on. What politican is going to totally overthrow our way of doing business overnight and turn it into something completely else?? Socialism???? I don't know. Steps need to be taken one at a time.

In all practicality, it is the corruption within 'crony capitalism' that needs to be addressed FIRST, before we can transition into a better way of trade and commerce. Paul is not the savior of mankind who is going to fix everything in America. But he is a HUGE step in the right direction. IF HE ISN"T, THEN WHO IS???? The cynical atheists offer NIL solutions to anything!!!, only complaints and critcism. What worth is that anymore? MOVE ON already. Fucking evolve! You have zero faith in anyone.

And as far as lingo and semantics are involved in political discussion, sorry, I don't squabble over such trivial details. All labels, academic terms and names we place on groups of people, such as conservative or liberal or whatever, blahblahblah, are too limiting and restrictive for this train of thought. Thats what I mean...evolve and look deeper and beyond your own petty cynicism of everything. You guys remind me of the Pharisees who argue over the wording of the Hebraic laws whom Jesus condemned for foolishly focusing on dead letters rather than the essence of the word. And I'm not even Christian!

[Doubting Thomas]

Exactly, what kind of sick (so called divine and all loving) being would 'create' such a vicious organism as say the Ebola virus? Which serves no purpose other than to cause extreme pain and suffering - and usually death - to its victim?

I was thinking this very same thought myself this weekend as I struggled to rid myself of a sinus infection (finally gone now and voice returned to normal, thank you) and my 2 year old son suffering with stomach flu.

But in typical doublethink, Christians will give thanks to God for getting over being sick without blaming him for getting sick in the first place.

[reverendjeremiah]

who believes in the "invisible hand of the market." What is this "invisible hand" you are talking about? If he supports a more FREE market, in a more FREE society, then what need for any invisible hand talk?

Oh, for the love of fruit loops. The "invisible hand of the market" is a phrase used to describe the benefits of a free market by proponents of it. It has nothing to do with a god, it is meant to describe the supposed self-correcting nature of a free market.

Min is trying to say that there is no "invisible hand" of a free market. There is always some sort of outside interference. That is why he speaks of it as if it were a religious belief, because there is noproof that a market could EVER be 100% truley free. They want us to take it on faith.

[Cyberman]

Exactly, what kind of sick (so called divine and all loving) being would 'create' such a vicious organism as say the Ebola virus? Which serves no purpose other than to cause extreme pain and suffering - and usually death - to its victim?

I was thinking this very same thought myself this weekend as I struggled to rid myself of a sinus infection (finally gone now and voice returned to normal, thank you) and my 2 year old son suffering with stomach flu.

But in typical doublethink, Christians will give thanks to God for getting over being sick without blaming him for getting sick in the first place.

A new and terrible disease arrives at a small isolated island which is home to a devout religious community. An illness for which there is a one percent expected survival rate. In accordance with the laws of narrative, there are exactly one hundred people living on the island and everyone gets infected. After a prolonged period marked by everyone shitting their insides into buckets, interspersed with prayers for salvation and perhaps just one more roll of toilet paper, ninety-nine people are dead. The lone survivor recovers and raises his ghostly pale face to the heavens. "It's a miracle! Glory be to God!"

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[RW_9]

Min is trying to say that there is no "invisible hand" of a free market. There is always some sort of outside interference. That is why he speaks of it as if it were a religious belief, because there is noproof that a market could EVER be 100% truley free. They want us to take it on faith.

I was responding to bgood's apparent confusion with the term itself.

[The Grand Nudger]

If Ron Paul's only opinion was in regards to capitalism, I'd have an issue with his opinion. His opinions on the "free market" though, are to me, the very least of my gripes with Ron Paul. lol.

(and his damned son....)

"If he isn't then who is?" Try no one available.

[Rev. Rye]

\Never heard of irukandji before, will look it up when I finish work!

Well, Irukandji doesn't exactly kill you. What it does is much worse:
It comes from the sting of a jellyfish that is about the size of your little fingernail, and is almost completely transparent. Even worse, it can easily slip clear of anti-jellyfish nets. If you get stung, it causes insane amounts of pain. You may notice in the second half of the video a sufferer writing in utter agony. Bear in mind that she is under a lot of morphine at this point. If she had any more, she would likely die of an overdose. And despite this, I have heard reports of mothers claiming that the pain of childbirth was nowhere near as bad as the pain of Irukandji syndrome, even with as much painkillers pumped into them as they can take without overdosing. Fortunately, you don't get it unless you go swimming off the Australian coast.