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i want to thank every atheist
#31
RE: i want to thank every atheist
Ban him please. Another case of Pel.
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#32
RE: i want to thank every atheist
(February 29, 2012 at 8:37 pm)kuki Wrote:
(February 29, 2012 at 2:04 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: So 90% of Muslims are really atheists lying about and acting that they are Muslims?
no they are born muslims who live like an atheist.they don't want to engage ALLAH in their lives for they dont take HIM seriously.

Ah; the old, worn out "atheists just don't want to believe in [insert god name du jour here] because they enjoy the lifestyle (i.e. sinning) too much" canard. Nothing new here - move along.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#33
RE: i want to thank every atheist
(February 29, 2012 at 9:01 pm)kuki Wrote: can you take my rustic challenge to tell a blind man about light, my wise sister ? or you just have forte in your tongue.

Rustic challenge? Forte in my tongue? Hmmm.
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#34
RE: i want to thank every atheist
Google translate. Simple challenge, skill in words or speech. You'd think that they'd learn english before they tried to witness to people who spoke english.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#35
RE: i want to thank every atheist
(February 29, 2012 at 4:08 pm)NoMoreFaith Wrote: Well, I have to confess I don't have 2 hours to spend on tired old arguments so I took the abbreviated version.

But as to the cosmological argument, and the assertion that everything has a creator. Your 'rustic' logic has a problem that every atheist can recite more or less in their sleep.

If everything has a creator, then what created the creator?
If the creator requires no cause, then you must admit your basic premise that everything has a creator is flawed.
If your basic premise is flawed, then your whole argument is flawed, not everything requires a creator.
Which means the universe does not necessitate a creator.
Ah, but WHAT made the universe then.. well, we don't know for certain.. which brings me to point 2.

Even if we assume a supernatural entity created the world, then what evidence do you have that makes Allah more preeminent a creator than Ra, Tepeu and Gucumatz, Jehovah (arguably the same guy), or Odin.

Answer the counterarguments and you may have a real discussion. Stop hiding behind videos which is one way only, and enter a real discussion on the matter. Prove me wrong, and be brave enough to defend your arguments.

The KCA is a fallacious, illogical and nonsensical argument. I am still waiting to hear the cause of beta decay. Any takers?
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#36
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Dodgy

Here we go again
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#37
RE: i want to thank every atheist
Kuki-and I, too, used Google Translate to help communicate with you:

I thinking you is a member of the undead what enter this country and not to seek the mind is more.
Trying to update my sig ...
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#38
RE: i want to thank every atheist
(February 29, 2012 at 10:37 pm)Epimethean Wrote: Kuki-and I, too, used Google Translate to help communicate with you:

I thinking you is a member of the undead what enter this country and not to seek the mind is more.

Hahaha, very funny and to the point.genius U R

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#39
RE: i want to thank every atheist
We're allowed actual art, so we don't bother with colored fonts, nor do we find them as amusing as your stimulus starved culture might. Did you have anything at all to say, or are you wasting our time?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#40
RE: i want to thank every atheist
(February 29, 2012 at 10:00 pm)Phil Wrote:
(February 29, 2012 at 4:08 pm)NoMoreFaith Wrote: Well, I have to confess I don't have 2 hours to spend on tired old arguments so I took the abbreviated version.

But as to the cosmological argument, and the assertion that everything has a creator. Your 'rustic' logic has a problem that every atheist can recite more or less in their sleep.

If everything has a creator, then what created the creator?
If the creator requires no cause, then you must admit your basic premise that everything has a creator is flawed.
If your basic premise is flawed, then your whole argument is flawed, not everything requires a creator.
Which means the universe does not necessitate a creator.
Ah, but WHAT made the universe then.. well, we don't know for certain.. which brings me to point 2.

Even if we assume a supernatural entity created the world, then what evidence do you have that makes Allah more preeminent a creator than Ra, Tepeu and Gucumatz, Jehovah (arguably the same guy), or Odin.

Answer the counterarguments and you may have a real discussion. Stop hiding behind videos which is one way only, and enter a real discussion on the matter. Prove me wrong, and be brave enough to defend your arguments.

The KCA is a fallacious, illogical and nonsensical argument. I am still waiting to hear the cause of beta decay. Any takers?
i would like to cull a paragraph from my 2 hr video
my dear if you argue that God created universe but who
created God .good question... but you like to take
a never ending hunt of "who created who. "
this journey will never end until you logically stop
at one point which will serve as "the ultimate First '
or " Ya Awwalo "
the Quranic word "Awwalo " means the very first or beginner.this is the attribute of ALLAH described in
holy Quran. which say that ALLAH is the First before anything or anyone .It means ALLAH created all
things but he was not created by someone

ALLAH is the Beginning means and the fact of His being the End means there is no one after Him. We cannot establish any limits for Him to be the First or the Last as ALLAH is beyond any limits. He is always and shall always be.





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