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God on Trial
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God on Trial
June 1, 2009 at 7:01 pm
Just saw THIS for the first time.

Excellent and heart wrenching. Loved it.

Anyone else here offer a commentary on it?
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RE: God on Trial
June 1, 2009 at 7:49 pm
I visited Auschwitz I an II 3 years ago and it left a great impression on me. If I had any doubts about a god existing that would be the clincher. No god would allow such suffering and cruelty. I visited a room in Auschwitz I, filled to the max with suitcases where everyone had to write with big letters their names and addresses so they could easily find them back after "processing". That was the moment the deaths stopped being a statistic for me. Here were the names of human beings, written in their own handwriting, that would not see the end of the day.
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RE: God on Trial
June 1, 2009 at 8:37 pm (This post was last modified: June 1, 2009 at 8:38 pm by g-mark.)
Quote:No god would allow such suffering and cruelty.

Why do people always assume that god is what we think is good?

Good for what?
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RE: God on Trial
June 1, 2009 at 11:14 pm (This post was last modified: June 1, 2009 at 11:14 pm by Oldandeasilyconfused.)
(June 1, 2009 at 8:37 pm)g-mark Wrote:
Quote:No god would allow such suffering and cruelty.

Why do people always assume that god is what we think is good?

Good for what?


SOME people, notably believers in the Abrahamic faiths make some absurd assumptions about the essentially benign nature of their deity.None of them stand up to scrutiny either from reading their sacred books,nor from logical examination.

No other religion of which I can think have traditionally made such assumptions. Most religions have traditionally had a clear dichotomy between good and evil.Many religious rituals were based on maintaining that balance in favour of good. EG Ancient Egypt,China and Meso America.
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RE: God on Trial
June 2, 2009 at 12:20 pm
There is no evidence that God exists that he is good.

In fact...if God does exist...my bet is that he's either evil, incredibly ignorant or insane, etc. Because of the crap he allows to go on - when he's more than capable of dealing with it - That is of course assuming he is all powerful...but I guess that's another assumption. I guess it's possible he could have created the universe and be the most powerful thing of all...but still have some limits of capability. How would that necessarily be impossible? Would he have to be omnipotent? I don't think so... - he'd just have to be the creator of the universe.

So like limited theism but not quite deism.... - just highly incompetent theism lol. That could be possible, I guess hehe.

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