Can God love?

[Paul the Human]

God the Father never forced Christ the Son to be a sacrifice for man, He could have turned it down

You mean the Son that was actually God? It works both ways, eh?

You act as if God is suppose to live up to your standards, the standards that can and will change to fit your wants. God's standards are eternally consistent, so that we know where we stand with God.

Yep. "Love me and do exactly as I say or burn in eternal torment." Ya gotta love that guy!

[Minimalist]

"Love me and do exactly as I say or burn in eternal torment."

More like a sadistic prison guard than a loving "god."

[Godscreated]

The only thing I will agree with is that love is not entirely, but necessarily an action. However, no form of god has ever shown me any action referring to love. If you feel someone died for your sins, they died for YOUR sins, not mine. I regret nothing, and hold myself accountable for everything I do.

Essentially you will be telling God I deserve what ever comes my way.

That's not true at all. Even if your god turned out to be real, as unlikely as that is, she's not saying, "I deserve whatever comes my way."

We all deserve much better treatment from your supposed creator. This notion that he has the right to maim and kill billions on a whim just because he's omniscient is disgusting. He expects, nay, demands that we all turn the other cheek but if HE doesn't like how things are going ... look out! - because he might drown the entire planet. If anyone deserves whatever may come, it's your sick fucking god.


O and by the way, before you whip out that blood sacrifice bit to show "how much god loved us" try to remember that dieing for merely a couple days and then living eternally in a kingdom of gold with millions of mindless drones feeding your ego for an eternity is not much of a fucking sacrifice. It's actually quite pathetic.


If your god does exist ... he's a genocidal criminal and we would all be well within our rights to beat the holy fuck out of him and hang him from his own Pearly Gates.

Yes she is, and I'm not going to argue with such a unreasonable, irrational person as yourself. What I will say is this, if God happened to be who you believe He is then I pity you when you meet Him.

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God the Father never forced Christ the Son to be a sacrifice for man, He could have turned it down

You mean the Son that was actually God? It works both ways, eh?

You act as if God is suppose to live up to your standards, the standards that can and will change to fit your wants. God's standards are eternally consistent, so that we know where we stand with God.

Yep. "Love me and do exactly as I say or burn in eternal torment." Ya gotta love that guy!

Jesus said that there would be people like you, you have eyes and are as blind as an eyeless newt.

[Tobie]

The only thing I will agree with is that love is not entirely, but necessarily an action. However, no form of god has ever shown me any action referring to love. If you feel someone died for your sins, they died for YOUR sins, not mine. I regret nothing, and hold myself accountable for everything I do.

Essentially you will be telling God I deserve what ever comes my way.

That's not true at all. Even if your god turned out to be real, as unlikely as that is, she's not saying, "I deserve whatever comes my way."

We all deserve much better treatment from your supposed creator. This notion that he has the right to maim and kill billions on a whim just because he's omniscient is disgusting. He expects, nay, demands that we all turn the other cheek but if HE doesn't like how things are going ... look out! - because he might drown the entire planet. If anyone deserves whatever may come, it's your sick fucking god.


O and by the way, before you whip out that blood sacrifice bit to show "how much god loved us" try to remember that dieing for merely a couple days and then living eternally in a kingdom of gold with millions of mindless drones feeding your ego for an eternity is not much of a fucking sacrifice. It's actually quite pathetic.


If your god does exist ... he's a genocidal criminal and we would all be well within our rights to beat the holy fuck out of him and hang him from his own Pearly Gates.

Yes she is, and I'm not going to argue with such a unreasonable, irrational person as yourself. What I will say is this, if God happened to be who you believe He is then I pity you when you meet Him.

By "not going to argue" do you mean "ignore every reasonable point anyone makes"? Jess said she holds herself accountable for everything she does, not whatever happens to her.

On your second point, how is it pitiful to interpret the genocidal god in the bible as a criminal? Unless you see genocide as a perfectly reasonable action, then you should accept that inciting people to kill all non-judeo-christians is quite a despicable act.

[Anomalocaris]

I see no reason whatsoever, either from any discernable first principle, or any direct evidence, that any theoretical entity meeting any other attributes normally associated with god would possess the least bit of what might pass for a human as love.

But of course I also see no reason whatsoever to suspect, either from any discernable first principle, or any direct evidence, that any theoretical entity meeting any distinguishing attributes normally associated with god should exist at all.

[Cinjin]

Yes she is, and I'm not going to argue with such a unreasonable, irrational person as yourself.

Yes you will. Thats exactly why you're here on an atheist site. Your sanctimony won't sell here.

What I will say is this, if God happened to be who you believe He is then I pity you when you meet Him.

If god happened to be who I believe he is???? Why would you pity me if I meet a god that doesn't care about the human race. The god that I believe in doesn't give a shit about torturing people for all eternity and I certainly wouldn't need to be pitied if I met him/her/it. WTF are you talking about?????????

Now, if we're talking about me meeting YOUR god, than yes, your god is a terrifying blood thirsty cock-sucking, butt plugging, shit filled piece of garbage who has been casting people into hell for 8000 years. You should be pitying me and 90% of the human race!! That being said, rebellion is apparently commonplace around your almighty douche bag of a god and he better hope that the 80 to 90 billion of us don't kick his lazy impotent ass for crimes against humanity. Once you're threatened with the fires of hell, there's really very little left for your god to hold over our heads. I'd stick a long sharp stick up his ass and let him roast in his own hell like a sausage for a few centuries.

[Anomalocaris]

Within a theological context the “God is Love” quote refers to an essential attribute. That attribute includes the actions of God that draw all things toward Him. As such love goes beyond both the warm and tender fondness He has for all things and the kindness and mercy He extends to His creation.

What is the reason to suppose a "god" should exist to possess "fondness" for all things, besides a flippant assertion that he:
1. Exist
2. and is fond?

[Welsh cake]

Within a theological context the “God is Love” quote refers to an essential attribute. That attribute includes the actions of God that draw all things toward Him. As such love goes beyond both the warm and tender fondness He has for all things and the kindness and mercy He extends to His creation.

Loves everyone? Really? I think you've been reading too many comic books.

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[jess_essential]

Is he/she serious?

[Anomalocaris]

Don't think he has enough neurons to be intentionally humorous.