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RE: Help! Joseph of Arimathea.
May 19, 2012 at 12:54 am
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(May 19, 2012 at 12:49 am)Phil Wrote: (May 19, 2012 at 12:48 am)Polaris Wrote: That you want me to prove your fallacy? Yeah I understand. Not going to happen though. Get your history right next time.
Ok douchebag, what fucking fallacy did I make?
edit: Thanks for admitting you are one of the many ignorant Christians that come through here thinking their apologetic bullshit provides evidence for their idiotic claims.
Getting your dates mixed up. Josephus was writing a generation after the Biblical authors....not all of course, the later books in the Bible were written around the time of the Antiquities of the Jews. Still the main issue is not that they were written in the first century, but the earliest that many believe them to have been written was 40 years after the death of Jesus.
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RE: Help! Joseph of Arimathea.
May 19, 2012 at 12:56 am
You are making a claim with no evidence, Polaris. That's what getting you in trouble.
Xtian apologists who make excuses for their books do not cut it here.
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RE: Help! Joseph of Arimathea.
May 19, 2012 at 12:58 am
(May 19, 2012 at 12:54 am)Polaris Wrote: Getting your dates mixed up. Josephus was writing a generation after the Biblical authors....not all of course, the later books in the Bible were written around the time of the Antiquities of the Jews.
What dates did I mix up and EXACTLY where did I mention any dates? You claimed the gospel of Mark was written between 40-70 CE yet have failed to provide any evidence so who is confusing dates? Please cut your lying bullshit and projecting your lies onto me if you want to converse with me any longer. Understand?
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RE: Help! Joseph of Arimathea.
May 19, 2012 at 12:59 am
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(May 19, 2012 at 12:56 am)Minimalist Wrote: You are making a claim with no evidence, Polaris. That's what getting you in trouble.
Xtian apologists who make excuses for their books do not cut it here.
If I was a Christian apologist, I would say 40 CE instead of the more accurate and academic 70 CE.
Edit: now the earliest piece of manuscript dates to they say roughly 68 CE from Qumran as 7Q5 (if you have a chance, these scrolls are worth a look merely for the academic value...they even did them in copper), but that is only a partial section of a page of the gospel and partial is not nearly good enough to know what the actual text was in full.....you know because we can't be sure how much the text was changed....aka the earliest manuscripts don't have added sections we have in modern Bibles.
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RE: Help! Joseph of Arimathea.
May 19, 2012 at 1:03 am
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(May 19, 2012 at 12:59 am)Polaris Wrote: (May 19, 2012 at 12:56 am)Minimalist Wrote: You are making a claim with no evidence, Polaris. That's what getting you in trouble.
Xtian apologists who make excuses for their books do not cut it here.
If I was a Christian apologist, I would say 40 CE instead of the more accurate and academic 70 CE.
If 70 CE is academic then I am sure you can provide the physical evidence of a manuscript from then, please do or just stop making your bullshit claim and don't be surprised when you are called on the carpet for it.
(May 19, 2012 at 12:59 am)Polaris Wrote: t: now the earliest piece of manuscript dates to they same 68 CE, but that is only a partial page of the gospel and partial is not nearly good enough to know what the actual text was in full.....you know because we can't be sure how much the text was changed....aka the earliest manuscripts don't have added sections we have in modern Bibles.
Wait a fucking second. Some Christian apologists claim that a 1 inch piece of papyrus with 9 letters that was found in Qumran is proof that there was a gospel written in 68 CE? Tell you what, those apologisst suffer from the same delusion you are.
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RE: Help! Joseph of Arimathea.
May 19, 2012 at 1:20 am
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See where I'm from...someone who comes up with some looney theory has to back it up. So back it up Phil. Back it up where you can tell me the Antiquities of the Jews inspired the Gospel of Mark. See usually it is up for the believer to come up with evidence, but since I did and this is really about historical evidence, you need to get your proof.
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RE: Help! Joseph of Arimathea.
May 19, 2012 at 1:21 am
7Q5? Seriously? Before you hang your hat on that, you might want to see what
the overwhelming scholarly consensus is on that tiny fragment.
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RE: Help! Joseph of Arimathea.
May 19, 2012 at 1:28 am
(May 19, 2012 at 1:21 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: 7Q5? Seriously? Before you hang your hat on that, you might want to see what
the overwhelming scholarly consensus is on that tiny fragment.
I did not expect him to be that educated to know that so I was going to let it slide.
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RE: Help! Joseph of Arimathea.
May 19, 2012 at 1:30 am
(May 19, 2012 at 1:28 am)Polaris Wrote: (May 19, 2012 at 1:21 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: 7Q5? Seriously? Before you hang your hat on that, you might want to see what
the overwhelming scholarly consensus is on that tiny fragment.
I did not expect him to be that educated to know that so I was going to let it slide.
I was talking to you.
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RE: Help! Joseph of Arimathea.
May 19, 2012 at 1:31 am
(May 19, 2012 at 1:20 am)Polaris Wrote: See where I'm from...someone who comes up with some looney theory has to back it up. So back it up Phil. Back it up where you can tell me the Antiquities of the Jews inspired the Gospel of Mark. See usually it is up for the believer to come up with evidence, but since I did and this is really about historical evidence, you need to get your proof.
Where did I say Antiquities and it isn't an original idea but you would have know that had you read anything other than Christian bullshit. Now as I asked already, I will ask a second time and there will not be a third, what dates did I mix up and where exactly did I mention any fucking dates. Answer this otherwise you are making it clear you are nothing but a troll (actually a schmuck but I doubt you know what one is).
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