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RE: Faith Through Fear
July 2, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Christians are great idolators. Fuckers just love images of jeebus on a cross, Mary in every possibly uninteresting pose, and about every frigging saint ever invented. Let's not even get into their lust for relics.
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RE: Faith Through Fear
July 3, 2012 at 12:29 am
(July 2, 2012 at 11:10 pm)Epimethean Wrote: Christians are great idolators. Fuckers just love images of jeebus on a cross, Mary in every possibly uninteresting pose, and about every frigging saint ever invented. Let's not even get into their lust for relics.
There you go with what the Catholics do, the protestants are different, personally I believe to still have Christ hanging on the cross is wrong.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Faith Through Fear
July 3, 2012 at 12:35 am
The catholics invented your jesus.
They should sue you for copyright infringement.
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RE: Faith Through Fear
July 3, 2012 at 12:43 am
Protestants put their idols in cradles. Still idols.
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RE: Faith Through Fear
July 3, 2012 at 7:02 am
(July 3, 2012 at 12:29 am)Godschild Wrote: (July 2, 2012 at 11:10 pm)Epimethean Wrote: Christians are great idolators. Fuckers just love images of jeebus on a cross, Mary in every possibly uninteresting pose, and about every frigging saint ever invented. Let's not even get into their lust for relics.
There you go with what the Catholics do, the protestants are different, personally I believe to still have Christ hanging on the cross is wrong.
When you point at others who have different views on the same label, to us it is like watching a Star Trek fan point at a Star Wars fan and say "The force is stupid".
When you or they, or any Muslim or Jew or Hindu, can get your pet deity claims as established scientifically as entropy and evolution, and you can take your claims to the patent office, then we can really talk.
Otherwise I am going to the default position that humans make up gods and always have, you and every human in our evolution that has ever made the claim of a disembodied magic super brain.
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RE: Faith Through Fear
July 3, 2012 at 3:03 pm
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Hey Godschild
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RE: Faith Through Fear
July 3, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Quote:something or someone to fear then by doing that you can also make them act in a way or take certain actions that they would otherwise not do.
Well, we all have to obey the law, don't we. We fear punishment, therefore, we obey the law.
Fear is something that everyone uses towards someone. Why should it be any different for religion?
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RE: Faith Through Fear
July 3, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Because legal punishments are real and sky-daddy puinishments are made up shit to scare the dolts.
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RE: Faith Through Fear
July 3, 2012 at 10:39 pm
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(July 2, 2012 at 4:03 pm)Godschild Wrote: [quote='RaphielDrake' pid='304783' dateline='1341200076'] (July 1, 2012 at 11:28 pm)Godschild Wrote:
RD Wrote:"Just who does Christianity control and for what purpose would Christianity need to control and who would it benefit, can you answer these questions."
What, you want names?
Example; If the pope holds a mass he has his flocks undivided attention and obediance. This is beneficial for him and his religion because he can gain influence, money and power through this.
Fairly simple concept, rather stupid question.
Most of them are committing idolatry, this is a forbidden practice for Christians, no man is to place himself between the people and Christ, seems we have two violations of scriptural teachings. A case for doubting their authenticity. Now let's here about the Protestant denominations, you all are hung up on Catholics, why? Deal with the rest of use. The question was intelligent, it was the answer that came off stupid.
RD Wrote:Also, "whos looking to extend their life" is an equally stupid question. Everyone is, including yourself.
If you don't think so let me ask you a question:
You believe you'll go to heaven if you die as long as you don't commit suicide, yes? Why don't you roam the streets of a particularly dangerous city at night to increase the likelyhood you'll get murdered and go to heaven?
Please think before you type in future to avoid boring the shit out of the rest of us.
It would not matter what I said, your attention span is so short you would get bored.
I do not look to extend my life, my date of death is already known and I can not change it. I'm going to heaven period, get off the Catholic kick and learn something please. One can prematurely die by doing something like you have mentioned, seems stupidity resides with you.
First question: Protestants gather at churchs on sundays? Infact most denominations of Christianity do. The priest gets donations which profit him and his church and he gets to fill his flocks heads with all sorts of ideas. Wow, that was easy. In future could you not be quite so pathetic as to cry because I didn't pick the religion for my example you wanted me to? I was tempted to put "Christianity controls Christians you fucking moron." but I decided without a deeper explaination you'd probably spend a few days dribbling over a keyboard trying to figure it out. Asking how an organisation, any organisation, would benefit from controlling massive amounts of people is anything but an intelligent query. Also the cross is an idol so yeah... pot, kettle, black.
Second Question: Whoa whoa whoa. Your date of death is already known? I think someones been watching Final Destination one too many times. If your date of death can't be changed because its pre-ordained how could you die prematurely? Seriously, wouldn't it show abit more honesty and abit less stupidity to say you don't want to die and therefore would like to extend your life if possible?
I have knowledge of Orthodox Christianity, Mormonism, Jehovahs Witnesses, Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism and more because I have researched them. I have the most experience with Catholicism, would it make you more comfortable if I used another religion as an example in future?
Honestly, I'm not sure anyone else cares but whatever. I'll specifically use Southern Baptist Christianity for examples in future, better?
Dry your eyes dear. :-)
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RE: Faith Through Fear
July 4, 2012 at 12:32 am
(July 3, 2012 at 10:39 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: (July 2, 2012 at 4:03 pm)Godschild Wrote: [quote='RaphielDrake' pid='304783' dateline='1341200076'] (July 1, 2012 at 11:28 pm)Godschild Wrote:
RD Wrote:"Just who does Christianity control and for what purpose would Christianity need to control and who would it benefit, can you answer these questions."
What, you want names?
Example; If the pope holds a mass he has his flocks undivided attention and obediance. This is beneficial for him and his religion because he can gain influence, money and power through this.
Fairly simple concept, rather stupid question.
Most of them are committing idolatry, this is a forbidden practice for Christians, no man is to place himself between the people and Christ, seems we have two violations of scriptural teachings. A case for doubting their authenticity. Now let's here about the Protestant denominations, you all are hung up on Catholics, why? Deal with the rest of use. The question was intelligent, it was the answer that came off stupid.
RD Wrote:Also, "whos looking to extend their life" is an equally stupid question. Everyone is, including yourself.
If you don't think so let me ask you a question:
You believe you'll go to heaven if you die as long as you don't commit suicide, yes? Why don't you roam the streets of a particularly dangerous city at night to increase the likelyhood you'll get murdered and go to heaven?
Please think before you type in future to avoid boring the shit out of the rest of us.
It would not matter what I said, your attention span is so short you would get bored.
I do not look to extend my life, my date of death is already known and I can not change it. I'm going to heaven period, get off the Catholic kick and learn something please. One can prematurely die by doing something like you have mentioned, seems stupidity resides with you.
First question: Protestants gather at churchs on sundays? Infact most denominations of Christianity do. The priest gets donations which profit him and his church and he gets to fill his flocks heads with all sorts of ideas. Wow, that was easy. In future could you not be quite so pathetic as to cry because I didn't pick the religion for my example you wanted me to? I was tempted to put "Christianity controls Christians you fucking moron." but I decided without a deeper explaination you'd probably spend a few days dribbling over a keyboard trying to figure it out. Asking how an organisation, any organisation, would benefit from controlling massive amounts of people is anything but an intelligent query. Also the cross is an idol so yeah... pot, kettle, black.
Second Question: Whoa whoa whoa. Your date of death is already known? I think someones been watching Final Destination one too many times. If your date of death can't be changed because its pre-ordained how could you die prematurely? Seriously, wouldn't it show abit more honesty and abit less stupidity to say you don't want to die and therefore would like to extend your life if possible?
I have knowledge of Orthodox Christianity, Mormonism, Jehovahs Witnesses, Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism and more because I have researched them. I have the most experience with Catholicism, would it make you more comfortable if I used another religion as an example in future?
Honestly, I'm not sure anyone else cares but whatever. I'll specifically use Southern Baptist Christianity for examples in future, better?
Dry your eyes dear. :-)
I'm not teary about anything you say, it would be stupid for me to cry over your nonsense. Yes, please use the Southern Baptist. The cross is a symbol of love and we do not worship it. One can shorten their life, I thought you said you knew scripture, I must be going deaf.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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