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ChrisAtian apologetics
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RE: ChrisAtian apologetics
(July 2, 2012 at 6:11 am)Zen Badger Wrote:
(July 1, 2012 at 11:26 pm)Christian Wrote: Ask God for your answers. Only he knows it.

I did, but my crossword puzzle stayed unsolved.

Well now, you just keep working on it. And when you've solved it we'll credit it to God for his divine inspiration. Clearly no mere human could complete such a complex puzzle. What do you think you are, competent? Don't be arrogant!
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RE: ChrisAtian apologetic
(July 2, 2012 at 3:11 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:
(July 1, 2012 at 10:25 pm)Clayterickson Wrote: I see that cristians often use the big bang theory to defend their beliefs stating something close to "see the creation story in the bible is very similar to what science states about he start of the universe.".
They're wrong. Obviously. The creation story in Genesis does not even remotely match the Big Bang model or what mainstream science accepts. There's not even a mention of the first stars creating the heavier elements from nuclear fusion reactions, the same matter that we're all made of, at all.

Matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed. In Genesis it elaborates how this god/word brought the cosmos out of nothing and gave it form. This is a violation of basic physics, namely the laws of conservation of mass and energy.

Let's not overlook the fact that the Big Bang model says nothing about the origin of reality/existence or the singularity that came before it. Its explaining the universe's early development. Those who assert that it is simply don't understand the that cosmological model is not a cosmogonical model.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmogony


Quote:My question that I cannot find an answer to is when Chritians believed that the universe was static, did they say things like "see the universe is just the same as when god created it."
I don't know. Static universe is no longer viable or considered to be the correct model reflecting our universe. I imagine if you read up on some old articles, old journals and old published books out-of-print you may just find extracts from what Christians of the time were proponent-ing back then I suppose.

Doesn't surprise me, after all we've got theists running around today who are asserting that the vastly-hostile-to-life universe is somehow finely-tuned for life, while oblivious to the overbearing fact that it's not. Undecided

I have been scouring looking for people who used the static model to justify god. However, I do not have access to a college library right now. I am sure they used the static model to justify it. I just want proof. Anyone who can find it please send me a link.
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