Hello from Indiana

[downbeatplumb]

"I'm willing to lear why others do"

There is an area for learing.

[Napoléon]

It is almost all atheists. And be prepared to be cursed out.

Well considering the place is called atheist forums what do you fucking expect?

And before you go on like theists aren't welcome here, bear in mind that we have several top members who are theists and one who is even a moderator, so shove your miserable attitude up your arse.

[spockrates]

Well even if you prefer to ask questions, I find it silly to not expect debate on the "enemy" turf.

And when I say "enemy" I do not mean literally, just that you and I are not in the same camp.

If you expect to have a long stay here, I'd advise you to treat us all as individuals because even we do not agree with each other on all things. And I would advise you to know the difference between a claim and a person.

People make claims, but claims are not people. One individual human can have a variety of claims on all sorts of subjects.

If you are not willing to debate, you might be putting yourself in for a world of self inflicted pain, It makes me wonder what you expected when you came here.

To me it would be like being a non smoker go into a smoker's house and demand they don't smoke, OR VICE VERSA, being a smoker going into a non smoker's house and demand they smoke.

When you say " I only want to ask questions", in the 11 years I have been debating on line, what I run into the most, when someone uses that line, is someone who is fishing, trying to play the shepherds trying to save the lost puppies.

Debate is your best option. You will not be the only one asking questions and your claims will get knocked around.

We do want you here, I am quite sure the mods and of the atheists here do want you here. BUT it is a two way street and it wont be a love fest all the time. It won't mean we hate you. But in the back and fourth if you do not prove your claims, we simply wont adapt them. That does not mean AS INDIVIDUALS, we will hate you personally.

But if you ask questions, we will too. So simply do your best to make your arguments and don't take it personally. This is your first post, none of us here know you personally. But we will judge your claims and put them through the ringer.

Thanks for the advice, Brian. I suppose I should clarify my OP by saying I'm looking more for a thoughtful dialog, rather than a heated debate. I'm not into partisan religion. As Socrates said:

"The partisan cares nothing about discovering the truth about a matter, but only about convincing his audience. The difference between him and me is this: My only concern is convincing myself! Whether I convince others is of little concern to me."

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Here's hoping you're sincere in wanting to learn why others doubt a gods' existence.

You can view forum statistics by looking at the bottom right of the main page and clicking the link there.

Otherwise, welcome, and good luck.

I'm sincerely sincere about my sincere desire to know the truth--whatever He, She, or It my be!

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Hello Indiana, I'm an Absurdist, I do not believe there is a god, I'm not even convinced there is a me, as such I do not have a camp, but I laugh at carry on films which are camp, (British cultural reference which you may not know about).
How's the potato harvest doing?

PS didn't Holmes come before Spock?

You mean, you're not sure there's no I in me? (I suppose such a thought is either absurd, or profound, depending on the context!)

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Hey, I thought I'd check the forum out. I consider myself Christian, enjoy good discussions and prefer to ask questions rather than debate. So how is the participation in this forum? Are there a lot of people posting here, or just a few?

It is almost all atheists. And be prepared to be cursed out.

I'm sure what anyone calls me, I'll be able to say I've been called worse!

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It is almost all atheists. And be prepared to be cursed out.

I haven't been here long, but from what I've seen the only people who get cursed out are people who absolutely reject reason, ask loaded questions, and make grand statements just to get people riled up...ring a bell?

And welcome, spockrates. Good to see another Star Trek fan.

Illogical is something of which no one has ever accused me, KockEmOut. Live long and prosper, my Treky acquaintance. I suppose I'm like Spock in that sense. I have been accused of asking questions that drive others to their wits' end, and kidding too much. I suppose I'm like Socrates that way.

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Thanks everyone for the warm welcome. Looking forward to thoughtful discussions on the forum.

[Jeffonthenet]

I haven't been here long, but from what I've seen the only people who get cursed out are people who absolutely reject reason, ask loaded questions, and make grand statements just to get people riled up...ring a bell?

I am so polite here it is absurd and I have been cursed out many times.

[jonb]

I am so polite here it is absurd and I have been cursed out many times.

Is that a profound absurd or an absurd absurd?

Is the Holmes Question a hot potato?

[Napoléon]

I am so polite here it is absurd and I have been cursed out many times.

You can be as polite as you want when insulting people but it doesn't make them less insulted. Troll.

[Annik]

Welcome!

May I ask why you believe in any gods to begin with? :3

[Jeffonthenet]

I am so polite here it is absurd and I have been cursed out many times.

You can be as polite as you want when insulting people but it doesn't make them less insulted. Troll.

To be honest I have went off on someone's argument I think only one time. And I don't think I even insulted the person. Regardless, you can judge me, I don't care. Enough talking about this, it is a waste of our time.

[KnockEmOuttt]

I haven't been here long, but from what I've seen the only people who get cursed out are people who absolutely reject reason, ask loaded questions, and make grand statements just to get people riled up...ring a bell?

I am so polite here it is absurd and I have been cursed out many times.

I didn't accuse you of being impolite. I'm simply pointing out what I see as your style of argument.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

And before you go on like theists aren't welcome here,

Theist are welcome. However, trolls,ratbags, dickheads,dills drongos,dropkicks,arseholes and the willfully ignorant are not welcome, theist or atheist.


Most of those we get here who fit into one of those categories also happen to be theist apologists.

To be fair,most of our dead cunts tend to also be atheists. That surprises me not at all,when I consider what we have to put up with.