Does the Bible Contradict Itself?

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

[Reforged]

Honestly? I'm looking forward to his answer to mine.
I've never got one that didn't simply deflect the question, I am intrigued as to his response.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

I am intrigued as to his response.

Jeez,ANOTHER masochist.

[Reforged]

I am intrigued as to his response.

Jeez,ANOTHER masochist.

If by that you mean I get a sick sexual thrill from mercilessly torturing theists foolish enough to defy me by relentlessly destroying their arguements until they're forced into a humiliating full retreat covered by crass insults and butthurt then you sir are a bigot, a blaggard, a porn-swan...











and 100% correct. :-)

[Mystic]

[Cinjin]

Rayann ... always with the cool head and the no-nonsense response.

Nice job man.

[jonb]

I'm thinking this is not a place where people of different beliefs are welcome. Do you all enjoy just talking only with those who agree with you? Is it more of a support group than a debate forum?

Sorry I got the wrong impression when I walked in the front door. I'll quietly sneak out the back and avoid further awkward cold shoulders.

Take care. Still love ya' all.

You bad children look what you have done! Sherl O'Craps has gone off in a sulk now, and he only wanted you to play his game his way under his rules-

Oh yes, I remember now that's what I'm against. Carry on chaps, there'll be another bus along soon. Back to watching the Dillahunty video.

[Undeceived]

Heres two propositions throughout the Bible in numerous passages that contradict:
1. God is omnipotent, all-powerful and all knowing.
2. We have freewill.

How is knowing someone's decision the same as deciding for them?

[Minimalist]

1 Samuel 15

10 Then the word of the Lord came to Samuel: 11 “I regret that I have made Saul king, because he has turned away from me and has not carried out my instructions.”

How can your silly god regret anything. Surely, this "all-knowing" being knew how it would turn out when he picked fucking "Saul?" What's the point of being "all-knowing" if every time you turn around you are surprised that your fucking plans don't work out? Why didn't your boy pick "David" the first time around?

Oh, wait...

2 Samuel 12 7-11

This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: ‘I anointed you king over Israel, and I delivered you from the hand of Saul. 8 I gave your master’s house to you, and your master’s wives into your arms. I gave you all Israel and Judah. And if all this had been too little, I would have given you even more. 9 Why did you despise the word of the Lord by doing what is evil in his eyes? You struck down Uriah the Hittite with the sword and took his wife to be your own. You killed him with the sword of the Ammonites. 10 Now, therefore, the sword will never depart from your house, because you despised me and took the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be your own.’

11 “This is what the Lord says: ‘Out of your own household I am going to bring calamity on you. Before your very eyes I will take your wives and give them to one who is close to you, and he will sleep with your wives in broad daylight. 12 You did it in secret, but I will do this thing in broad daylight before all Israel.’”

That didn't work out so well, either. Why is your god such a fuck up? Why does he always pick the wrong man? If he were the personnel director for my company I'd fire his holy ass.

[Cato]

How is knowing someone's decision the same as deciding for them?

You obviously don't get the subtleties of the free-will debate. If I assume your God for the sake of argument, we are left with a paradox.

This means that your God created me knowing that I would make the decision to deny him, his son, and the ever elusive holy ghost. God knew my punishment and knew my future decisions, but created me anyway. Where exactly was my choice in this scheme?

If there was a god, did you ever pause to consider that Christians were the butt of the joke?