Hello Truth Seekers

[Kyuuketsuki]

How do you "practice atheism"?

I reckon you should know ... my impression is you weren't really an atheist, you just practised it

Kyu

[fr0d0]

You saying I was No True Atheist Kyu!?

[Minimalist]

I am a 48 year old family man and Professional stand-Up Comedian

Got any good jesus jokes?

[Kyuuketsuki]

You saying I was No True Atheist Kyu!?

You bet!

Kyu

[northumbrian66]

Welcome Omjag86 to the sane world. Religion turns people into stupid unthinking morons. The moralistic stance of religious people is nothing less than pathetic. If a person has to have a set of rules laid down in some book supposedly written by some person who sits in the clouds then I'm afraid my view is that the lunatic assylum is the only place for these people! I hold to the view (I think expressed by an early American president - I may be wrong?) that 'There will always be good people doing good and evil people doing evil but it takes religion to make good people to evil things' Cheers

[Edwardo Piet]

You saying I was No True Atheist Kyu!?

You bet!

Kyu

Yeah! Cos no true atheist would believe in God! Oops, NTS fallacy...

...no wait...that's not fallacious, as that's genuinely a conflict with the actual definition of atheism!

So the question perhaps is fr0d0, just whether you really believe God didn't exist, or just 'fell out with him', or are 'disingenious' (or something to that effect), as Kyu seems to be suggesting...something like that?

Kyu's not saying "No true atheist would be 'X', or 'Y' [despite the fact such an atheist doesn't believe in God so 'X' and 'Y' is is irrelevant, hence NTS fallacy]".

Am I making any sense here? :S - this matter is confusing me right now lol...

As Stephen Fry says on an ABOFAL sketch "Am I connecting, and I sensing through?".

EvF

[Tiberius]

That's the exception to the No True Scotsman

No true Scotsman would have an American nationality.

[Edwardo Piet]

Yes. Otherwise if that's not an exception then, Zeus! There's a lot of fallacies going around that I didn't know about, and that seem perfectly O.K. and non-fallacious!

I mean like "No true scotsman would be an american? How can you know that! You can't be speaking for what is and isn't a true scotsman. NTS fallacy!" - fuck it would be chaos.

It's important when you read the wiki article of it for instance...to notice the exception. There's nothing more frustrating than dude who goes around accusing people of fallacies all the time when he's got them completely wrong!

EvF

[fr0d0]

So the question perhaps is fr0d0, just whether you really believe God didn't exist, or just 'fell out with him', or are 'disingenious' (or something to that effect), as Kyu seems to be suggesting...something like that?

I really did believe God didn't exist yeah. I made a conscious choice in that moment and ceased to believe in God. One minute, God. the next minute, no God. You don't believe this is possible?

I had no beef with God. I had no issue I was mad at him for, no unanswered questions or issues at all that gave me that reason to disbelieve. I hated people from my old church (I'd left and gone to another for about 18 months), and I disliked much about my old church, like the traditionalism that stifled modernism. I made an amicable departure whilst my wife stayed. I even discussed it with our Ministers who I was quite close to. Bad people does not = bad Christianity.. I knew this then like I know it now.

As time passed I grew more militant in my atheism. Now I was very anti religion/ esp Christianity and made my wife's life (who's been a Christian since she was about 16 (she's also from a household of non believers)) hell at times. I remember a great argument I had with her ministers when they wanted me to agree to participating in our child's baptism.

I suppose I don't need you or anyone to believe me. Like Kyu comes out with the statement that he was a Christian - from birth presumably. But then I don't fully understand the Catholic system. The bible says a person has to make a conscious decision for. Kyu denies this clause I think.

Belief isn't some uninformed notion. Otherwise there really is no difference in believing in those other contenders ()

[omjag86]

How do you "practice atheism

I'm glad you asked Frodo, and sorry it's taken me awhile to get back to you.
I have a daily practice of meditation for at least one hour a day. Science and medicine are now revealing that meditation utilizes different areas and nueropathways of the brain than we use in a waking state, thus allowing for a greater sense of balance, relaxation,and creativity in our waking state.

However, I found meditation a very difficult and tedious practice until I discovered a nuerotechnology called "The Holosync Solution" which I have been using for the last four and a half years. Holosync, using binary sound beats and sine sound waves, puts a different sound frequency in each ear thus forcing your two hemispheres to work together to "hear" the sound in your brain. This is like a workout for your brain, literally like running on a treadmill, and as your brain drops from a waking beta state all the down through Alpha and then Theta to the dreamless, deep sleeping Delta state-the only difference being that you aren't asleep, you are sitting up with eyes closed. It takes 17 minutes for Holosync to drop you down to Delta-it takes a Buddhist monk about 20 years of practice at 6 hours a day to acheive this same depth of meditation. The benefits of this mental workout include a ever increasing resilliancy to stress, increased focus, great memory, less sleep needed, and I could go on and on and on.
You could even use Holosync while you are praying, as long as you are sitting in a relaxed state you just pop on the earphones and Hail Mary your way into a very deep state of consciousness. I am unable to post a link, but if are interested you could just search Holosync, and you will find it quick enough.
Peace IN
OMjag86

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Got any good jesus jokes?

For all you believers out there I have been researching Jesus for quite some time and I'm positive he's not coming back.
You see Jesus was a Nazarene, the Nazarene's were an African tribe,
Therefore Jesus was black.
And once you've been black you never go back.
Om

PS stand-up is always funnier the more you drink, if you didn't laugh try two martini's and a bongload, then read it again.