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December 10, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Hello, for those of you who don't know, (most of you), my name is Adam Wilson. I am 15.
I have cancer.
My father is abusive and a drunk.
My best friend recently commited suicide.
And my girlfriend who I lost my virginity hates me.
Im very depressed.
Im also suicidal.
But Im scared for one reason, what if Im wrong about everything and the devil is there ready to buttrape me with his burning hot pecker?
So my question for all of you, is it not worth it to just accept "god" even if just as insurance?  hock:
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RE: Help?
December 10, 2012 at 11:25 pm
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(December 10, 2012 at 11:21 pm)WhatIfGodWasJustAMyth Wrote: So my question for all of you, is it not worth it to just accept "god" even if just as insurance? :shock:
That would be... Pascal's Wager. I don't know if it would work, even if a god did exist.
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December 11, 2012 at 12:39 am
Even if there was a god, any god of literature, I would not worship such a being. If there's an afterlife and hell is real, well, that's a problem for after death. Only life should concern the living.
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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December 11, 2012 at 1:58 am
It's kinda pointless since there are so many different gods and conceptions of the afterlife. Christians have just as much of a chance of going to hell as atheists do.
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December 11, 2012 at 3:01 am
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(December 10, 2012 at 11:25 pm)Darkstar Wrote: (December 10, 2012 at 11:21 pm)WhatIfGodWasJustAMyth Wrote: So my question for all of you, is it not worth it to just accept "god" even if just as insurance? hock:
That would be...Pascal's Wager. I don't know if it would work, even if a god did exist.
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December 11, 2012 at 7:25 am
Sounds like Pascal's wager.
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December 11, 2012 at 7:34 am
I don't think that "accepting God as insurance" is the same thing as actually believing in God.
I have no idea if you're trolling. Your life seems, by your account, pretty horrific at the moment. It's a bit odd that the response has been Homer Simpson jpegs making fun of Pascal's wager and talking about how many ways the wager could go wrong. That's not usually how reasonable people respond to someone who just said they were feeling suicidal.
Which leads me to think that either the other contributors here are in a better position with regard to knowing whether you're a troll, and I should follow their lead in disregarding the seriousness of the account you've given, or they're just assholes and don't give two shits about offering you counsel, support, or guidance.
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RE: Help?
December 11, 2012 at 2:57 pm
(December 11, 2012 at 7:34 am)CliveStaples Wrote: That's not usually how reasonable people respond to someone who just said they were feeling suicidal.
You know, that's a good point.
I have no idea if the OP is sincere or not, but given the serious nature of his post, I'll give it the benefit of the doubt.
@OP - I can only imagine how you must be feeling. If you're feeling suicidal, the best advice I can give is to get help - talk to your family doctor, your therapist/psychiatrist if you have one, a crisis help line, or even 911 if you have no other options. I've been down that road on more than one occasion, and going about it alone is not the way to do it.
I can only offer support and advice. I wish I could do more. If you need someone to talk to or advice on where to go to get the help you want, please feel free to PM me any time.
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