10 Questions for Christians

[Darwinian]

If you are an educated Christian then I have an important question for you. Have you ever thought about using your education to think about your faith?

Your life and career demand that you act and think rationally. Let's apply your critical skills to the following 10 questions.

Here is an example of the kind of thing I'm talking about. As a Christian you believe in the power of prayer. According to a recent poll 3 out of 4 doctors believe God is performing medical miracles right now.

Many Christians believe that God is curing cancers, healing deceases, reversing the effects of poisons etc.

Question one: Why won't God heal amputees?

It's a simple question isn't it? We all know that amputated legs do not regenerate in response to prayer.

Amputees get no miracles from God.

If you are an intelligent person you have to admit that is an interesting question. One one hand you believe that God answers prayers and performs miracles. On the other hand you know that God completely ignores amputees when they prey for miracles.

How do you deal with this discrepancy? As an intelligent person you have to deal with it because it makes no sense.

In order to handle it you have to create some kind of rationalisation, you have to invent an excuse on God's behalf to explain this strange fact of life.

You might say that "God has some special plan for amputees".

Then you invent an excuse, whatever it is, then you stop thinking about it because it makes you feel uncomfortable.

Here is another example. As a Christian you believe that God cares about you and answers your prayers.

Question two: Why are there so many starving children in the world?

Why would God be worried about you getting a raise while at the same time ignoring the prayers of these desperate, innocent little children?

It doesn't make sense does it? Why would a loving God do this?

To explain it you have to come up with some strange excuse for God like:

God wants these children to suffer and die for some divine and mysterious reason.

And then you push it out of your mind because it doesn't fit in with your view of a loving and caring god.

Question three: Why does God demand the death of so many innocent people in the bible?

Look up these verses...

Exodus 35:2 God demands that we kill everyone who works on the sabbath day.

Deuteronomy 21:18-21 God demands that we kill disobedient teenagers.

Leviticus 21:13 God demand the death of homosexuals.

Deuteronomy 21:13-21 God demand that we kill girls who are not virgins when they marry.

And so on. There are lots of verses like this.

It doesn't make sense does it? Why would a loving god want us to murder our fellow human beings over such trivial matters?

Just because you work on the wrong day of the week you must die?

This makes no sense does it? In fact, if you think about it, it's insane. So you create some kind of rationalisation to explain these verses.

Question four: Why does the bible contain so much anti-scientific nonsense?

As an educated person you know that the bible contains all sorts of information that is nonsense from a scientific perspective.

- God did not create the World in 6 days just 6000 years ago like the bible says.

- There was never a worldwide flood that covered Mount Everest like the bible says.

- Jonah did not live inside a fishes stomach for 3 days like the bible says.

- God did not create Adam from a handful of dust like the bible says.

These stories are nonsense. Why would an all knowing God write nonsense? It makes no sense does it?

So you try to create some strange kind of excuse to explain why the bible contains nonsense.

Question five: Why is God such a huge proponent of slavery in the bible.

Look up these verses:

Exodus 21:20-21
Colossians 3:21-24
Ephesians 6:5
1 Peter 2:18

And so on....

How on earth do you explain all of these?

Question six: Why do bad things happen to good people?

Question seven: Why didn't any of Jesus's miracles in the bible leave any evidence?

Question eight: How do you explain that Jesus has never appeared to you?

Question nine: Why would Jesus want you to eat his body and drink his blood?

It sounds totally grotesque doesn't it? Why would an all powerful god want you to do something that, in any other context, sounds like a disgusting, cannibalistic and satanic ritual?

Question ten: Why do Christians get divorced at the same rate as non-Christians?

When Christians get married they do it in the presence of God and their Christian friends who are praying that this marriage succeeds.

And they say, "What God has put together let no man put asunder." God is all powerful and if God puts two people together that should be that shouldn't it?

Yet Christians get divorced at the same rate as everyone else. How can that possibly be?

[dagda]

All these questions (appart from 9 and 10) can be answered by claiming a Gnostic view. The OT God is ignorant and , at times, crule and not the real God. The real God did not create us and lives beond our reality and has little intrest in humanity uther than giving us a helping hand to acheive freedom from the lesser god.

[Meatball]

All these questions (appart from 9 and 10) can be answered by claiming a Gnostic view. The OT God is ignorant and , at times, crule and not the real God. The real God did not create us and lives beond our reality and has little intrest in humanity uther than giving us a helping hand to acheive freedom from the lesser god.

Thread title: "10 Questions for Christians"

Not: "10 Questions for Gnostics"

[AtheistBassist]

I have wondered all of the same things.
Though Christians never seem to answer them
I can't imagine why that is

[imans]

the truth is alone what is positively there you can never claim true what you aware of being wrong, this is something else as being wrong somewhere else

every human is a combination of two living forms in one mind, a mind is always the cohabitation of both together, your inner self that religions name as your soul, your own personnal reactions to living reality, and your external self, more as your body living physically reacting and willing to reach being real in reality of living around

now, the common ground between those both existing forms is the positive nature of their goals, that is a shape of the truth they dont aknowledge right

humans all mostly, accept being reduced to a limited form of living truth or being, that is why they accept to choose any direction they would take advantage from of living force support to get themselves a reality of living positivity sense for their acceptance of being limited to true living

humanity in its history, showed how they tend to bet on their subjective truth of positive living much more than the objective direction of living sense

when you bet on the innerself as your soul, you would eploit the external all for it as to justify it, because one in truth is self truth, which means self justifying himself, as self is the positive truth, and sorry for that one, as truth is the positive self too

that is what religious people live from, they dont care what objective say, it is not living for them, they live from and for their souls living not their bodies that are used only to confirm soul live, the atheists obviously tend to do the opposite, they use their souls to justify objective reality allowing their lives

men are more objective usually so they choose more their subjectivity to justify and become more religious to feel being one

women are the reverse in that seek being one, as subjective more they choose reality to confirm their sense of living and tend to be less religious and more attached to things around

in that scheme we can understant the lack of understanding between women and men when men love in women what women dont love in themselves and women love in men what men too dont care about, and together they become one by what the truth of one look like objectively, but without the reality of one truth

in each self, the inner need positive support from his external as the external is more real on a ground, and the external need positive feeling of life truth as it lacks a lot of its own depth because self is of himself and not outside

the solution is obvious to me when one could use outside by projecting himself inn what outside is related intimetaly to one truth of positive same unvariable reality of life, to be of that same nature positively alive, where inner and external are not anymore but one for living truth form

in life one can witness the truth, how justifications are means of self and self is means of justifications together become same one that is only positive living reality of absolute truth in every existant forms

[infidel666]

All these questions (appart from 9 and 10) can be answered by claiming a Gnostic view. The OT God is ignorant and , at times, crule and not the real God. The real God did not create us and lives beond our reality and has little intrest in humanity uther than giving us a helping hand to acheive freedom from the lesser god.

Is the "real God" named Lucifer?

[imans]

no infidel obviously is naming real god being the infinite the only real makg all kind of realities possibilities lives for some secret goals to infinite self, i agree with infidel on that

[bozo]

If you are an educated Christian then I have an important question for you. Have you ever thought about using your education to think about your faith?

Your life and career demand that you act and think rationally. Let's apply your critical skills to the following 10 questions.

Here is an example of the kind of thing I'm talking about. As a Christian you believe in the power of prayer. According to a recent poll 3 out of 4 doctors believe God is performing medical miracles right now.

Many Christians believe that God is curing cancers, healing deceases, reversing the effects of poisons etc.

Question one: Why won't God heal amputees?

It's a simple question isn't it? We all know that amputated legs do not regenerate in response to prayer.

Amputees get no miracles from God.

If you are an intelligent person you have to admit that is an interesting question. One one hand you believe that God answers prayers and performs miracles. On the other hand you know that God completely ignores amputees when they prey for miracles.

How do you deal with this discrepancy? As an intelligent person you have to deal with it because it makes no sense.

In order to handle it you have to create some kind of rationalisation, you have to invent an excuse on God's behalf to explain this strange fact of life.

You might say that "God has some special plan for amputees".

Then you invent an excuse, whatever it is, then you stop thinking about it because it makes you feel uncomfortable.

Here is another example. As a Christian you believe that God cares about you and answers your prayers.

Question two: Why are there so many starving children in the world?

Why would God be worried about you getting a raise while at the same time ignoring the prayers of these desperate, innocent little children?

It doesn't make sense does it? Why would a loving God do this?

To explain it you have to come up with some strange excuse for God like:

God wants these children to suffer and die for some divine and mysterious reason.

And then you push it out of your mind because it doesn't fit in with your view of a loving and caring god.

Question three: Why does God demand the death of so many innocent people in the bible?

Look up these verses...

Exodus 35:2 God demands that we kill everyone who works on the sabbath day.

Deuteronomy 21:18-21 God demands that we kill disobedient teenagers.

Leviticus 21:13 God demand the death of homosexuals.

Deuteronomy 21:13-21 God demand that we kill girls who are not virgins when they marry.

And so on. There are lots of verses like this.

It doesn't make sense does it? Why would a loving god want us to murder our fellow human beings over such trivial matters?

Just because you work on the wrong day of the week you must die?

This makes no sense does it? In fact, if you think about it, it's insane. So you create some kind of rationalisation to explain these verses.

Question four: Why does the bible contain so much anti-scientific nonsense?

As an educated person you know that the bible contains all sorts of information that is nonsense from a scientific perspective.

- God did not create the World in 6 days just 6000 years ago like the bible says.

- There was never a worldwide flood that covered Mount Everest like the bible says.

- Jonah did not live inside a fishes stomach for 3 days like the bible says.

- God did not create Adam from a handful of dust like the bible says.

These stories are nonsense. Why would an all knowing God write nonsense? It makes no sense does it?

So you try to create some strange kind of excuse to explain why the bible contains nonsense.

Question five: Why is God such a huge proponent of slavery in the bible.

Look up these verses:

Exodus 21:20-21
Colossians 3:21-24
Ephesians 6:5
1 Peter 2:18

And so on....

How on earth do you explain all of these?

Question six: Why do bad things happen to good people?

Question seven: Why didn't any of Jesus's miracles in the bible leave any evidence?

Question eight: How do you explain that Jesus has never appeared to you?

Question nine: Why would Jesus want you to eat his body and drink his blood?

It sounds totally grotesque doesn't it? Why would an all powerful god want you to do something that, in any other context, sounds like a disgusting, cannibalistic and satanic ritual?

Question ten: Why do Christians get divorced at the same rate as non-Christians?

When Christians get married they do it in the presence of God and their Christian friends who are praying that this marriage succeeds.

And they say, "What God has put together let no man put asunder." God is all powerful and if God puts two people together that should be that shouldn't it?

Yet Christians get divorced at the same rate as everyone else. How can that possibly be?

Good questions! why not register on a christian site, post them on it....and await the backlash!

[FutureAndAHope]

If you are an educated Christian then I have an important question for you. Have you ever thought about using your education to think about your faith?

Your life and career demand that you act and think rationally. Let's apply your critical skills to the following 10 questions.

Here is an example of the kind of thing I'm talking about. As a Christian you believe in the power of prayer. According to a recent poll 3 out of 4 doctors believe God is performing medical miracles right now.

Many Christians believe that God is curing cancers, healing deceases, reversing the effects of poisons etc.

Question one: Why won't God heal amputees?

It's a simple question isn't it? We all know that amputated legs do not regenerate in response to prayer.

Amputees get no miracles from God.

If you are an intelligent person you have to admit that is an interesting question. One one hand you believe that God answers prayers and performs miracles. On the other hand you know that God completely ignores amputees when they prey for miracles.

How do you deal with this discrepancy? As an intelligent person you have to deal with it because it makes no sense.

In order to handle it you have to create some kind of rationalisation, you have to invent an excuse on God's behalf to explain this strange fact of life.

You might say that "God has some special plan for amputees".

Then you invent an excuse, whatever it is, then you stop thinking about it because it makes you feel uncomfortable.

All I know is God does still heal http://www.johnmellor.org this guy got on local TV becasue he healed a blind wheel chair bound youth.

Here is another example. As a Christian you believe that God cares about you and answers your prayers.

Question two: Why are there so many starving children in the world?

Why would God be worried about you getting a raise while at the same time ignoring the prayers of these desperate, innocent little children?

It doesn't make sense does it? Why would a loving God do this?

All the church seems to speak on is giving to the poor, it is rediculous to blame God (or the church) for this lack. Personally I give thousands of dollars to the poor, which is motivated by God. I know of another guy in our church who raised over ten thousand dollars for the poor. My friends church raises money for the poor too.

To explain it you have to come up with some strange excuse for God like:

God wants these children to suffer and die for some divine and mysterious reason.

Even if children were to die God can still eternally save that person, by revealing himself to them on death.

And then you push it out of your mind because it doesn't fit in with your view of a loving and caring god.

Question three: Why does God demand the death of so many innocent people in the bible?

Look up these verses...

Exodus 35:2 God demands that we kill everyone who works on the sabbath day.

Deuteronomy 21:18-21 God demands that we kill disobedient teenagers.

Leviticus 21:13 God demand the death of homosexuals.

Deuteronomy 21:13-21 God demand that we kill girls who are not virgins when they marry.

And so on. There are lots of verses like this.

It doesn't make sense does it? Why would a loving god want us to murder our fellow human beings over such trivial matters?

Just because you work on the wrong day of the week you must die?

This makes no sense does it? In fact, if you think about it, it's insane. So you create some kind of rationalisation to explain these verses.

The death penalty was a high penalty, it was to prevent via fear people doing things that God was opposed to. Jesus when confronted by a woman who had committed adultery (punishable by death) let her go free and would not allow the mob to kill her. Jesus who was God did not enforce the penalty on the woman.

Question four: Why does the bible contain so much anti-scientific nonsense?

As an educated person you know that the bible contains all sorts of information that is nonsense from a scientific perspective.

- God did not create the World in 6 days just 6000 years ago like the bible says.

No one knows how old the earth really is, it is not unscientific. We are just used to hearing millions of years.

- There was never a worldwide flood that covered Mount Everest like the bible says.

There is no evidence that a world wide flood did not occur, in fact it is recorded in writtings other than the bible, in the epic of gilgamesh, and many other cultures.

- Jonah did not live inside a fishes stomach for 3 days like the bible says.

- God did not create Adam from a handful of dust like the bible says.

Both of these are personal opinion not based upon any real fact. Just because you say it did not happen does not make it so.

These stories are nonsense. Why would an all knowing God write nonsense? It makes no sense does it?

So you try to create some strange kind of excuse to explain why the bible contains nonsense.

The bible is a recorded history of communications with God. It is written by people with a low scientific knowledge so can not be expected to be a science text book. But it is understandable, and that is all that counts.

Question five: Why is God such a huge proponent of slavery in the bible.

Look up these verses:

Exodus 21:20-21
Colossians 3:21-24
Ephesians 6:5
1 Peter 2:18

And so on....

How on earth do you explain all of these?

The bible is not a book that supports slavery. It has laws regarding slavery because it was common practice at the time and people had slaves. One of the most important people in the freeing of slaves in the english kingdoms was a Christian - William Wilberforce

Question six: Why do bad things happen to good people?

chance

Question seven: Why didn't any of Jesus's miracles in the bible leave any evidence?

The nature of the miracles, they were primary healing. Besides I have already to you of some miracles of my own, but you are willingly deaf.

Question eight: How do you explain that Jesus has never appeared to you?

He has apeared to me on a few occassions via voice and feelings. I mentioned this in some of my earlier posts. You need to listen to that or you may by throwing out my evidence condemn your selves to hell.

Question nine: Why would Jesus want you to eat his body and drink his blood?

It sounds totally grotesque doesn't it? Why would an all powerful god want you to do something that, in any other context, sounds like a disgusting, cannibalistic and satanic ritual?

He was speaking in a parable he never expected any one to eat him. He meant we have to take him into our selves. Injest his teachings.

Question ten: Why do Christians get divorced at the same rate as non-Christians?




When Christians get married they do it in the presence of God and their Christian friends who are praying that this marriage succeeds.



And they say, "What God has put together let no man put asunder." God is all powerful and if God puts two people together that should be that shouldn't it?

Yet Christians get divorced at the same rate as everyone else. How can that possibly be?

Because they are selfish. There is no excuse for this one.

[bozo]

If you are an educated Christian then I have an important question for you. Have you ever thought about using your education to think about your faith?

Your life and career demand that you act and think rationally. Let's apply your critical skills to the following 10 questions.

Here is an example of the kind of thing I'm talking about. As a Christian you believe in the power of prayer. According to a recent poll 3 out of 4 doctors believe God is performing medical miracles right now.

Many Christians believe that God is curing cancers, healing deceases, reversing the effects of poisons etc.

Question one: Why won't God heal amputees?

It's a simple question isn't it? We all know that amputated legs do not regenerate in response to prayer.

Amputees get no miracles from God.

If you are an intelligent person you have to admit that is an interesting question. One one hand you believe that God answers prayers and performs miracles. On the other hand you know that God completely ignores amputees when they prey for miracles.

How do you deal with this discrepancy? As an intelligent person you have to deal with it because it makes no sense.

In order to handle it you have to create some kind of rationalisation, you have to invent an excuse on God's behalf to explain this strange fact of life.

You might say that "God has some special plan for amputees".

Then you invent an excuse, whatever it is, then you stop thinking about it because it makes you feel uncomfortable.

All I know is God does still heal http://www.johnmellor.org this guy got on local TV becasue he healed a blind wheel chair bound youth.

Here is another example. As a Christian you believe that God cares about you and answers your prayers.

Question two: Why are there so many starving children in the world?

Why would God be worried about you getting a raise while at the same time ignoring the prayers of these desperate, innocent little children?

It doesn't make sense does it? Why would a loving God do this?

All the church seems to speak on is giving to the poor, it is rediculous to blame God (or the church) for this lack. Personally I give thousands of dollars to the poor, which is motivated by God. I know of another guy in our church who raised over ten thousand dollars for the poor. My friends church raises money for the poor too.

To explain it you have to come up with some strange excuse for God like:

God wants these children to suffer and die for some divine and mysterious reason.

Even if children were to die God can still eternally save that person, by revealing himself to them on death.

And then you push it out of your mind because it doesn't fit in with your view of a loving and caring god.

Question three: Why does God demand the death of so many innocent people in the bible?

Look up these verses...

Exodus 35:2 God demands that we kill everyone who works on the sabbath day.

Deuteronomy 21:18-21 God demands that we kill disobedient teenagers.

Leviticus 21:13 God demand the death of homosexuals.

Deuteronomy 21:13-21 God demand that we kill girls who are not virgins when they marry.

And so on. There are lots of verses like this.

It doesn't make sense does it? Why would a loving god want us to murder our fellow human beings over such trivial matters?

Just because you work on the wrong day of the week you must die?

This makes no sense does it? In fact, if you think about it, it's insane. So you create some kind of rationalisation to explain these verses.

The death penalty was a high penalty, it was to prevent via fear people doing things that God was opposed to. Jesus when confronted by a woman who had committed adultery (punishable by death) let her go free and would not allow the mob to kill her. Jesus who was God did not enforce the penalty on the woman.

Question four: Why does the bible contain so much anti-scientific nonsense?

As an educated person you know that the bible contains all sorts of information that is nonsense from a scientific perspective.

- God did not create the World in 6 days just 6000 years ago like the bible says.

No one knows how old the earth really is, it is not unscientific. We are just used to hearing millions of years.

- There was never a worldwide flood that covered Mount Everest like the bible says.

There is no evidence that a world wide flood did not occur, in fact it is recorded in writtings other than the bible, in the epic of gilgamesh, and many other cultures.

- Jonah did not live inside a fishes stomach for 3 days like the bible says.

- God did not create Adam from a handful of dust like the bible says.

Both of these are personal opinion not based upon any real fact. Just because you say it did not happen does not make it so.

These stories are nonsense. Why would an all knowing God write nonsense? It makes no sense does it?

So you try to create some strange kind of excuse to explain why the bible contains nonsense.

The bible is a recorded history of communications with God. It is written by people with a low scientific knowledge so can not be expected to be a science text book. But it is understandable, and that is all that counts.

Question five: Why is God such a huge proponent of slavery in the bible.

Look up these verses:

Exodus 21:20-21
Colossians 3:21-24
Ephesians 6:5
1 Peter 2:18

And so on....

How on earth do you explain all of these?

The bible is not a book that supports slavery. It has laws regarding slavery because it was common practice at the time and people had slaves. One of the most important people in the freeing of slaves in the english kingdoms was a Christian - William Wilberforce

Question six: Why do bad things happen to good people?

chance

Question seven: Why didn't any of Jesus's miracles in the bible leave any evidence?

The nature of the miracles, they were primary healing. Besides I have already to you of some miracles of my own, but you are willingly deaf.

Question eight: How do you explain that Jesus has never appeared to you?

He has apeared to me on a few occassions via voice and feelings. I mentioned this in some of my earlier posts. You need to listen to that or you may by throwing out my evidence condemn your selves to hell.

Question nine: Why would Jesus want you to eat his body and drink his blood?

It sounds totally grotesque doesn't it? Why would an all powerful god want you to do something that, in any other context, sounds like a disgusting, cannibalistic and satanic ritual?

He was speaking in a parable he never expected any one to eat him. He meant we have to take him into our selves. Injest his teachings.

Question ten: Why do Christians get divorced at the same rate as non-Christians?




When Christians get married they do it in the presence of God and their Christian friends who are praying that this marriage succeeds.



And they say, "What God has put together let no man put asunder." God is all powerful and if God puts two people together that should be that shouldn't it?

Yet Christians get divorced at the same rate as everyone else. How can that possibly be?

Because they are selfish. There is no excuse for this one.

To Future And a Hope.
Get yourself a copy of " The God Delusion "...read it...read it again.
Then revisit your answers.
Also, re. my signature....how likely?