Proof That the Bible Isn't the Word of God

[Zone]

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That's a positive claim about God there. Who says God is meant to exist objectively?
Do you have proof of that?
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God does exist subjectively in peoples minds but to be able create the universe, perform miracles and impregnate virgins he does need to exist objectively as well.

[catfish]

The only claim I've ever made about God is that I believe. That is all the evidence you need...
I make no claims about virgin births, nor miracles. Those perceptions only exist in your mind.
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However, just to fuck with you guys, I will admit that I do believe that virgin births are possible.


*edited for grammar
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And to futher fuck with you guys...

I firmly believe that 11=3
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[fr0d0]

Translation? I have the "means" to consider, NOT accept all of scripture.

Nice little moving of the goal posts there, don't think for a minute that I didn't catch that...
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I didn't move the goal posts. You were on a different pitch.

Who said you had to accept it! Having the means doesn't mean you have to use them.

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The existence of existence isn't evidence for Gods existence unless God and existence are the same thing but you may as well just call it existence, or the universe or whatever. There is a great deal we don't understand about the universe or why it exists as it does but any explanation that you put forward that can be potentially detected in the natural world would be a scientific claim. If there can be no evidence of any kind ever then you're just left with pure speculation, but you can't really base a religion or a belief in a deity on that.

So then it's as good job I don't base my belief on that. The consideration to Christians is entirely superfluous.

To science it is of interest, and some importance. Don't make the error of confusing the two. Especially not in trying to understand God using science.

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Some do believe God is everything and that we are God.
If God created the universe out of nothing and supposedly encompasses everything, would we not be made out of God?
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^^ I believe that

[catfish]

Translation? I have the "means" to consider, NOT accept all of scripture.

Nice little moving of the goal posts there, don't think for a minute that I didn't catch that...
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I didn't move the goal posts. You were on a different pitch.

Who said you had to accept it! Having the means doesn't mean you have to use them.

You said it, plus the lame attempt at comparing me to a child...
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Well not quite. Whilst the understanding of a child suffices (for children), as an intelligent adult you has responsibilities. That is, it is not beyond your means to accept all of scripture.

Please, would you like to deny your own words for everyone to see?
I would also absolutely adore it if you'd call me a fool. Pretty please?
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And for the record, you moved them again... I never claimed that you said I had to accept them, just that you said I had the means to accept them...
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[fr0d0]

You're chasing the wrong bone catfish. Child/ naïve/ innocent... take your pick. Not your hand bag please

[catfish]

No I'm not. I care less about your lame attempts at insults.
I'm concerned about your blatant disregard for the truth.

Do you, or do you not, deny that your initial claim was that I had the means to accept all of scripture?
Do you, or do you not, deny that you then changed that claim above by saying I had the means to consider all of scripture?

Remember, bear no false witness. Own up to your error or defend yourself against my accusations.
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[Zone]

The only claim I've ever made about God is that I believe. That is all the evidence you need...

I'll believe that I'm 6ft 4 with a full ripped body the face of Brad Pitt then.

I make no claims about virgin births, nor miracles. Those perceptions only exist in your mind.

Some kind of a deistic God? I can't argue with with that but I don't really see the point of a God who doesn't do anything or doesn't offer anything. He may as well not exist.

However, just to fuck with you guys, I will admit that I do believe that virgin births are possible.

Parthenogenesis does happen naturally without a God being involved. We're talking fish, insects and lizards. It hasn't been recorded in mammals but here's something to bear in mind.

"There are no known cases of naturally occurring mammalian parthenogenesis in the wild. Parthenogenetic progeny of mammals would have two X chromosomes, and would therefore be female."

I firmly believe that 11=3
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You can believe in something and that belief can be wrong then, if that's what you're demonstrating.

[fr0d0]

No I'm not. I care less about your lame attempts at insults

Dude, your misunderstanding is huge. Please look at what I'm saying.

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Do you, or do you not, deny that your initial claim was that I had the means to accept all of scripture?
Do you, or do you not, deny that you then changed that claim above by saying I had the means to consider all of scripture?

Remember, bear no false witness. Own up to your error or defend yourself against my accusations.
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Those words were mine, and I clarified them for you.

I take it that you do not wish to discuss. Apologies.

[catfish]

However, just to fuck with you guys, I will admit that I do believe that virgin births are possible.

Parthenogenesis does happen naturally without a God being involved. We're talking fish, insects and lizards. It hasn't been recorded in mammals but here's something to bear in mind.

"There are no known cases of naturally occurring mammalian parthenogenesis in the wild. Parthenogenetic progeny of mammals would have two X chromosomes, and would therefore be female."

I'm not talking about Parthenogenesis . I'm talking about a virgin getting pregnant and having a baby. There's not much to it really. A virgin gets a little semen in her vagina (past her unbroken hymen), and conceives a child...

I firmly believe that 11=3
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You can believe in something and that belief can be wrong then, if that's what you're demonstrating.

But it's not wrong. It's easy to prove too.
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Those words were mine, and I clarified them for you.

I take it that you do not wish to discuss. Apologies.

I missed that clarification and it only happened a few posts ago? How could I miss that?

If you cannot admit your words were a mistake or an outright lie, then I don't wish to discuss anything with you.
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[fr0d0]

How could I miss that?

I have no idea.