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Assume racists are correct...
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Assume racists are correct...
Let's say that racists are right, that the race(s) they hate is in some empirical way inferior to their own race (e.g. in capacity to think, to learn, to create, etc), how should that race(s) be treated? Should their rights be the same as the "superior" race?
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RE: Assume racists are correct...
wtf! Why all these weird threads?

Let`s assume dragons are real and we can ride them into unichornland
That cheese grows on trees
Dinosaurs were nazis
Jesus was a german
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RE: Assume racists are correct...
I would say that, in order to prove this, make sure that there's no ambiguity about nature vs. nurture by putting them on as even a keel as humanly possible, so that, if it is true, nobody can blame it on their environment.
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RE: Assume racists are correct...
(March 4, 2013 at 10:46 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: wtf! Why all these weird threads?

Let`s assume dragons are real and we can ride them into unichornland
That cheese grows on trees
Dinosaurs were nazis
Jesus was a german

I thought this would be an interesting ethics discussion.
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RE: Assume racists are correct...
(March 4, 2013 at 10:37 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: Let's say that racists are right, that the race(s) they hate is in some empirical way inferior to their own race (e.g. in capacity to think, to learn, to create, etc), how should that race(s) be treated? Should their rights be the same as the "superior" race?

I don't know how you could prove that, I think it's known sort of that most black people have some white european genetics in them. So say for example if black people were scientifically proven to be inferior how would that work?
Also i think it would be impossible to maintain any sort of human rights abuses against a race, i know if someone told me because i have polish in my family I'm inferior and that they are going to try and oppress my family I'd try my hardest to kill them.
The best thing to do is let natural selection sort things out.


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RE: Assume racists are correct...
(March 4, 2013 at 10:57 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: I thought this would be an interesting ethics discussion.

And of what use are conclusions drawn out of ethics debates on a subject non confirm with reality?
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RE: Assume racists are correct...
(March 4, 2013 at 11:21 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote:
(March 4, 2013 at 10:57 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: I thought this would be an interesting ethics discussion.

And of what use are conclusions drawn out of ethics debates on a subject non confirm with reality?

It doesn't matter if it conforms to reality. A consistent ethical system should be able to address all conceivable situations. This is a conceivable situation even though it isn't a real situation.
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RE: Assume racists are correct...
(March 4, 2013 at 11:21 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote:
(March 4, 2013 at 10:57 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: I thought this would be an interesting ethics discussion.

And of what use are conclusions drawn out of ethics debates on a subject non confirm with reality?

Most of the debates on a religious forum don't confirm or conform with reality.


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RE: Assume racists are correct...
(March 4, 2013 at 11:25 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: It doesn't matter if it conforms to reality. A consistent ethical system should be able to address all conceivable situations. This is a conceivable situation even though it isn't a real situation.

Exactly! Whatever conclusions one may get out of a debate on a fictional never existing dilema - it doesn`t matter!

Or can you show me how it would?
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RE: Assume racists are correct...
(March 4, 2013 at 11:43 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote:
(March 4, 2013 at 11:25 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: It doesn't matter if it conforms to reality. A consistent ethical system should be able to address all conceivable situations. This is a conceivable situation even though it isn't a real situation.

Exactly! Whatever conclusions one may get out of a debate on a fictional never existing dilema - it doesn`t matter!

Or can you show me how it would?

It would matter if scientists all of a sudden united in their opinion that one race was inferior


Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.

Impersonation is treason.





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