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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 16, 2013 at 12:52 pm
(March 16, 2013 at 10:01 am)catfish Wrote: You should read what I have already wrote. This is getting retarded, really it is.
A human is an individual lifeform formed at conception in case you're too lazy.
Didn't I go over this 20 pages ago?
You should have read what I already wrote.
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 16, 2013 at 3:34 pm
(March 16, 2013 at 12:52 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: Didn't I go over this 20 pages ago?
You should have read what I already wrote.
Yeah, and you made some delusional comment about True Human™ or something...
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 16, 2013 at 3:36 pm
(March 16, 2013 at 3:34 pm)catfish Wrote: (March 16, 2013 at 12:52 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: Didn't I go over this 20 pages ago?
You should have read what I already wrote.
Yeah, and you made some delusional comment about True Human™ or something...
No, I think you're the one who said "Tue Human TM", which I don't particularly understand. It's a form of mockery, I got that.
What I said, though, was that it was not an individual human being because of the fetus' dependency on the mother. It is not individual. It is living and feeding off of another person. That is literally the opposite of the word "individual".
So, no, the fetus is not an individual human.
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 16, 2013 at 3:44 pm
(March 16, 2013 at 3:36 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: (March 16, 2013 at 3:34 pm)catfish Wrote: Yeah, and you made some delusional comment about True Human™ or something...
No, I think you're the one who said "Tue Human TM", which I don't particularly understand. It's a form of mockery, I got that.
What I said, though, was that it was not an individual human being because of the fetus' dependency on the mother. It is not individual. It is living and feeding off of another person. That is literally the opposite of the word "individual".
So, no, the fetus is not an individual human.
Here is what you said: (bolded to highlight your fallacy)
Quote:Human beings must, by definition, be separate individuals. Fetuses depend on and reside inside of a mother. They do not gain the status of human being by virtue of living inside the body of another human being.
Therefore, by that logic, it becomes a true human being when it no longer needs to depend on the nutrients inside the mother/reside in the mother.
So what is it while it resides in the mother? Please say a fish...
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 16, 2013 at 3:52 pm
(This post was last modified: March 16, 2013 at 3:53 pm by CleanShavenJesus.)
(March 16, 2013 at 3:44 pm)catfish Wrote: (March 16, 2013 at 3:36 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: No, I think you're the one who said "Tue Human TM", which I don't particularly understand. It's a form of mockery, I got that.
What I said, though, was that it was not an individual human being because of the fetus' dependency on the mother. It is not individual. It is living and feeding off of another person. That is literally the opposite of the word "individual".
So, no, the fetus is not an individual human.
Here is what you said: (bolded to highlight your fallacy)
Quote:Human beings must, by definition, be separate individuals. Fetuses depend on and reside inside of a mother. They do not gain the status of human being by virtue of living inside the body of another human being.
Therefore, by that logic, it becomes a true human being when it no longer needs to depend on the nutrients inside the mother/reside in the mother.
Yes, I said the words "true human being". What's your point?
catfish Wrote:So what is it while it resides in the mother? Please say a fish...
A human fucking fetus. How difficult is this for you?
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 16, 2013 at 4:26 pm
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(March 16, 2013 at 3:52 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: (March 16, 2013 at 3:44 pm)catfish Wrote: Here is what you said: (bolded to highlight your fallacy)
Yes, I said the words "true human being". What's your point?
The point is you said it first and then tried to attribute the concept to me
(March 16, 2013 at 3:52 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: catfish Wrote:So what is it while it resides in the mother? Please say a fish...
A human fucking fetus. How difficult is this for you?
It's not dificult for me at all, howsabout you?
Is a human zygote/fetus an individual human lifeform created at conception?
Is a fetus a stage in the developement of an individual human being?
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 16, 2013 at 4:48 pm
(March 16, 2013 at 4:26 pm)catfish Wrote: (March 16, 2013 at 3:52 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: Yes, I said the words "true human being". What's your point?
The point is you said it first and then tried to attribute the concept to me
I attributed the "True Human TM" concept to you. I don't know what the hell that's about.
catfish Wrote:Is a human zygote/fetus an individual human lifeform created at conception?
No.
catfish Wrote:Is a fetus a stage in the developement of an individual human being?
Did you just ask me if a fetus will eventually become an individual human being? Jesus, I'm afraid to your answer that because all you're doing is twisting words around so you can only quote a section of my post and claim you're correct. You're not, no matter how you word your questions. A fetus is a stage in human development. That DOES NOT make the fetus an individual human being. In fact, what the fuck kind of question is that? By your logic, since it will eventually grow to be an individual human being, it IS one?
Apparently, this is quite difficult for you.
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 16, 2013 at 4:50 pm
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A human fetus is not an individual human, the same way a tadpole is not a frog, and an egg is not a chicken.
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 16, 2013 at 5:21 pm
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(March 16, 2013 at 4:50 pm)futilethewinds Wrote: A human fetus is not an individual human, the same way a tadpole is not a frog, and an egg is not a chicken.
So let me get this straight...
A human fetus is not a human baby?
A tadpole is not a baby frog?
And an egg (I assume you mean chicken egg), is not a baby chicken?
(March 16, 2013 at 4:48 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: catfish Wrote:Is a human zygote/fetus an individual human lifeform created at conception?
No.
You should just stop here. There's no hope for you...
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 16, 2013 at 5:29 pm
(March 16, 2013 at 5:21 pm)catfish Wrote: (March 16, 2013 at 4:50 pm)futilethewinds Wrote: A human fetus is not an individual human, the same way a tadpole is not a frog, and an egg is not a chicken.
So let me get this straight...
A human fetus is not a human baby?
A tadpole is not a baby frog?
And an egg (I assume you mean chicken egg), is not a baby chicken? YES! Congratulations!
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