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RE: Jesus was a shape shifter
March 22, 2013 at 8:20 pm
(March 22, 2013 at 7:58 pm)Godschild Wrote: I would like to point out something if you do not mind, you forgot to answer my question.
I did, by pointing out that you focused on the most minor of the inconsistencies to support your claim that they don't matter. I could understand an explanation for this one minor inconsistency, and perhaps even for several of them in isolation. Not for all of them as a whole. If you have several people tell you about something they saw, or heard second-hand, you would expect some inconsistencies. But not so many, especially if we're talking about one of the most (if not THE most) important events in history.
If you meant that none of them matter because they're less important than the event that they are supposed to be corroborating, er... okay, I guess.
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RE: Jesus was a shape shifter
March 22, 2013 at 9:03 pm
(March 22, 2013 at 8:04 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: (March 18, 2013 at 2:56 pm)Faith No More Wrote: If I was Christian, my Jesus would be able to shoot laser beams from his eyes and smite the wicked with just his thoughts. Wait. He can't do that! Whoa, that changes everything.
I thought it lightning bolts out his arse? Damned Christians never have been able to get their story straight.
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RE: Jesus was a shape shifter
March 23, 2013 at 7:00 am
(March 22, 2013 at 7:58 pm)Godschild Wrote: He caused them not to recognize Him until He was ready.
Which apparently hasn't happened yet, as no one seems to have even the faintest clue as to what the man actually looked like.
You'd think a very clear and accurate portrait of a man who was witnessed defeating death would be available in large abundance. Instead, we have an image that is almost universally accepted as an invention.
Not surprisingly, that invention was mostly shaped by Roman influence, and it should be considered no coincidence that the image of Jesus is similar to that of the Roman god Jupiter.
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RE: Jesus was a shape shifter
March 25, 2013 at 2:27 am
(March 23, 2013 at 7:00 am)smax Wrote: (March 22, 2013 at 7:58 pm)Godschild Wrote: He caused them not to recognize Him until He was ready.
Which apparently hasn't happened yet, as no one seems to have even the faintest clue as to what the man actually looked like.
You'd think a very clear and accurate portrait of a man who was witnessed defeating death would be available in large abundance. Instead, we have an image that is almost universally accepted as an invention.
Not surprisingly, that invention was mostly shaped by Roman influence, and it should be considered no coincidence that the image of Jesus is similar to that of the Roman god Jupiter.
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What has that got to do with the discussion at hand, do you actually know what Nero looked like, or is it what Nero wanted people to see.
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RE: Jesus was a shape shifter
March 25, 2013 at 3:23 am
(March 25, 2013 at 2:27 am)Godschild Wrote: (March 23, 2013 at 7:00 am)smax Wrote: Which apparently hasn't happened yet, as no one seems to have even the faintest clue as to what the man actually looked like.
You'd think a very clear and accurate portrait of a man who was witnessed defeating death would be available in large abundance. Instead, we have an image that is almost universally accepted as an invention.
Not surprisingly, that invention was mostly shaped by Roman influence, and it should be considered no coincidence that the image of Jesus is similar to that of the Roman god Jupiter.
Out with the old, in with the new...... name.
What has that got to do with the discussion at hand, do you actually know what Nero looked like, or is it what Nero wanted people to see.
My post addresses the issue of the image of Christ, which you suggested that Jesus intentionally scrambled in the memories of his followers.
The existence of Nero as an actual historical figure is not in question.
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RE: Jesus was a shape shifter
March 25, 2013 at 3:39 am
(March 25, 2013 at 3:23 am)smax Wrote: (March 25, 2013 at 2:27 am)Godschild Wrote: What has that got to do with the discussion at hand, do you actually know what Nero looked like, or is it what Nero wanted people to see.
My post addresses the issue of the image of Christ, which you suggested that Jesus intentionally scrambled in the memories of his followers.
The existence of Nero as an actual historical figure is not in question.
True about Nero but is the representation of his face accurate.
I have no idea how Jesus accomplished this, I know what scripture says and believe He did.
How do you know there's dark energy and/or dark matter, I hear scientist saying it exist though they haven't seen any.
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RE: Jesus was a shape shifter
March 25, 2013 at 8:56 am
(March 25, 2013 at 3:39 am)Godschild Wrote: How do you know there's dark energy and/or dark matter, I hear scientist saying it exist though they haven't seen any.
The simplest answer is we don't. The existence of dark matter / energy is a theory that explains our observations. It is a theory supported by evidence such as dark matter's gravitational effects on visible matter, radiation, and the large-scale structure of the universe. That's the difference between us and you. We accept it as the best explanation for what we see. We don't accept the existence of dark matter / energy on faith alone. Nor is our acceptance static. If further observations produce new evidence that points to an explanation other than dark matter / energy then we are OK with that.
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