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RE: Why do feminists have such a bad reputation?
April 23, 2013 at 7:01 am
(April 23, 2013 at 6:35 am)bladevalant546 Wrote: I believe it has to do with feminism being hijacked by radical misandrists. Also, the supression of Misandry. Personally I do not see a need for feminism. Why not be for equal rights and fight for equality for all mankind? So an equalitist? (I just made that up.) My girlfriend wrote a paper on Misandry and the negative feminism that exists today.
That's absolutely correct. And they accuse anyone who criticises feminism of hating women.
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RE: Why do feminists have such a bad reputation?
April 23, 2013 at 8:10 am
No one denies there are misandrists. But equating them with regular feminists, and then also saying that feminists aren't "women" because they don't fit the mold you like, and then saying that Western women in general don't fit that mold either, is juggling oranges and a bunch of rotten apples.
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RE: Why do feminists have such a bad reputation?
April 23, 2013 at 8:44 am
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(April 23, 2013 at 8:10 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: No one denies there are misandrists. But equating them with regular feminists, and then also saying that feminists aren't "women" because they don't fit the mold you like, and then saying that Western women in general don't fit that mold either, is juggling oranges and a bunch of rotten apples.
Indeed, I think we at a stage now that we need stronger united equality groups. I think labels hurt more than they help nowadays as people including myself sometimes will over generalize. So yes I understand and get what you are saying.
(April 23, 2013 at 6:47 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: (April 23, 2013 at 6:35 am)bladevalant546 Wrote: I believe it has to do with feminism being hijacked by radical misandrists. Also, the supression of Misandry. Personally I do not see a need for feminism. Why not be for equal rights and fight for equality for all mankind? So an equalitist? (I just made that up.) My girlfriend wrote a paper on Misandry and the negative feminism that exists today.
Any links?
It was college paper, I might be able to post it here if I have her permission. IT was a rather interesting read.
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RE: Why do feminists have such a bad reputation?
April 23, 2013 at 9:21 am
(April 23, 2013 at 8:10 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: No one denies there are misandrists. But equating them with regular feminists, and then also saying that feminists aren't "women" because they don't fit the mold you like, and then saying that Western women in general don't fit that mold either, is juggling oranges and a bunch of rotten apples.
Missing the point.
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RE: Why do feminists have such a bad reputation?
April 23, 2013 at 9:23 am
(April 23, 2013 at 6:35 am)bladevalant546 Wrote: So an equalitist?
I like it! Sign me up! 
(April 23, 2013 at 8:44 am)bladevalant546 Wrote: It was college paper, I might be able to post it here if I have her permission. IT was a rather interesting read.
That would be nice, hope she gives her permission.
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RE: Why do feminists have such a bad reputation?
April 23, 2013 at 9:24 am
What point, pretty please? Because you've blathered on about a lot of shit.
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RE: Why do feminists have such a bad reputation?
April 23, 2013 at 9:53 am
(April 23, 2013 at 8:10 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: No one here denies there are misandrists. fixed
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RE: Why do feminists have such a bad reputation?
April 23, 2013 at 9:54 am
(April 23, 2013 at 9:53 am)Stue Denim Wrote: (April 23, 2013 at 8:10 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: No one here denies there are misandrists. fixed
[quirks smile] Point, I was assuming the "here" part but I should know better than to do that after the dealings with other theists here.
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RE: Why do feminists have such a bad reputation?
April 23, 2013 at 9:55 am
(April 23, 2013 at 4:30 am)Stue Denim Wrote: If it's those two issues that are the focus, why feminism?
If it worked for other equality issues, why not feminism?
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RE: Why do feminists have such a bad reputation?
April 23, 2013 at 10:24 am
(April 22, 2013 at 11:05 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: Stop using the world "natural". It isn't. It's a cultural norm of this particular time. You can be attractive to someone no matter what you do, it just might not be the someone you want, or you might not have found that someone.
Coming in late here but I agree w/ summer.
Anyone who cultivates their appearance/behavior/persona in order to be attractive to the maximum number of sexual partners is not being smart about it. They only decrease the likelihood of finding a satisfying relationship. Man or woman.
Of course, if ones goal is to play the field and maximize 'conquests', then such manipulation may pay dividends. Otherwise, being as transparent as possible is the easiest way to sift through a seemingly immense field of potential mates. You've got to give people who disagree with what you find important and dislike the way you are a chance to cross themselves off you potential mate list. Of course you need to be just as picky from your end.
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