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RE: Hell
April 30, 2013 at 7:44 pm
(April 29, 2013 at 1:49 am)Godschild Wrote: (April 29, 2013 at 1:36 am)wwjs Wrote: Why are you afraid to answer? It's like asking what would you do if you could fly or won $100 million.
I'm not afraid to answer, you asked for a yes or no answer, so the question could not be like the two you have here, there is no yes or no to them. Since I can not fly or have won $100 million, why should I wonder what I would do. Living is better than dreaming of what will not happen, that's why I've chosen Christ, to live for now and forever.
Godschild, you said living is better than dreaming of what will not happen. But in fact you have been dreaming, dreaming to live forever in a paradise that you don't know exist. You have faith that it does correct? Well faith is like hope, hope is like dreaming, you are in fact dreaming of what will not happen. It's makes your whole statement sound silly.
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RE: Hell
April 30, 2013 at 10:52 pm
(April 30, 2013 at 7:44 pm)Wonderland Wrote: (April 29, 2013 at 1:49 am)Godschild Wrote: I'm not afraid to answer, you asked for a yes or no answer, so the question could not be like the two you have here, there is no yes or no to them. Since I can not fly or have won $100 million, why should I wonder what I would do. Living is better than dreaming of what will not happen, that's why I've chosen Christ, to live for now and forever.
Godschild, you said living is better than dreaming of what will not happen. But in fact you have been dreaming, dreaming to live forever in a paradise that you don't know exist. You have faith that it does correct? Well faith is like hope, hope is like dreaming, you are in fact dreaming of what will not happen. It's makes your whole statement sound silly.
Wonderland,
I know that Paradise exists and I'll be a part of it, I know this because I know with no doubt that God is real and that He stands by His promises.
Just as scripture says my faith has grown to knowledge. It's all in the relationship.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Hell
April 30, 2013 at 10:56 pm
(April 29, 2013 at 2:23 am)catfish Wrote: God exists, prove me wrong, wwjs...
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I stabbed your god in the throat and left his corpse to rot in Mexico. Prove me wrong, catfish
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RE: Hell
April 30, 2013 at 10:59 pm
(April 30, 2013 at 10:56 pm)Cinjin Wrote: (April 29, 2013 at 2:23 am)catfish Wrote: God exists, prove me wrong, wwjs...
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I stabbed your god in the throat and left his corpse to rot in Mexico. Prove me wrong, catfish
I have no need to. You and the other dude both supported my claim, so I'll just sit back and laugh at your silly claims... (unless of course, you wish to admit to lying)
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RE: Hell
April 30, 2013 at 11:07 pm
Quote:I know that Paradise exists and I'll be a part of it,
Bullshit, G-C. You fervently HOPE that your fairy tales are true. Big fucking difference from "knowing."
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RE: Hell
April 30, 2013 at 11:38 pm
You know, nobody has ever proven that I am not God.
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RE: Hell
May 1, 2013 at 3:01 am
(April 30, 2013 at 11:38 pm)Ryantology Wrote: You know, nobody has ever proven that I am not God.
Because no god would wiggle it's wiener at people, they would not need to entice in such a crude manner.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Hell
May 1, 2013 at 7:00 am
I do not believe in a hell, since as far as I know our minds simply cease to function when we die, meaning we can't exactly go to Hell. Two other items: We can never do something deserving of infinite punishment, because we are finite beings with finite actions and finite understanding; No god who is all-powerful, all-loving and all-just would allow a hell to exist, although they might allow a purgatory.
Ponders too much; thinks too little.
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RE: Hell
May 1, 2013 at 8:44 am
Quote:Mononok..............as far as I know our minds simply cease to function when we die....................
As far as you know.............
The problem with knowing what is that it takes a lot of effort to know how the whole system works.
To find the gold hidden underground you got to dig and dig a lot.
If you never dig and at the same time pretend to know then you can only say.........AS FAR AS I KNOW.........
The same is the case with knowing and find out the difference between mind and spirit.
Most people think that you are the mind when in reality the mind in none other then the store in which we keep all information just like the hard drive of a computer.
We are the real thing not the mind.
Again it is important not to confuse the driver with the vehicle.
The vehicle can go to the dogs once is getting too old but you will continue your journey with a new vehicle.
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RE: Hell
May 1, 2013 at 10:38 am
(May 1, 2013 at 8:44 am)enrico Wrote: Quote:Mononok..............as far as I know our minds simply cease to function when we die....................
As far as you know.............
The problem with knowing what is that it takes a lot of effort to know how the whole system works.
To find the gold hidden underground you got to dig and dig a lot.
If you never dig and at the same time pretend to know then you can only say.........AS FAR AS I KNOW.........
The same is the case with knowing and find out the difference between mind and spirit.
Most people think that you are the mind when in reality the mind in none other then the store in which we keep all information just like the hard drive of a computer.
We are the real thing not the mind.
Again it is important not to confuse the driver with the vehicle.
The vehicle can go to the dogs once is getting too old but you will continue your journey with a new vehicle.
We've experienced death. The condition that you're in when the mind ceases to work (no electric activity to allow neurons to function together)
is the same condition as before you were born. How a consciousness is formed is the complicated part.
It gets even more complicated when adding something called God into it who must also have a consciousness as this being seems to have choices to make, is perfect but not perfect and lacks qualities theists are supposing he has even though evidence shows the exact opposite.
It is obvious that our minds are nurtured into belief because there is no default view on religion. People learn to believe, some are born more susceptible to different types of belief and that combined with certain upbringings creates people like Godschild.
I don't make assumptions about anything EVER, I only speculate likely events.
Not sure what you're on about in the rest of your post, seems ambiguous.
Hell isn't very likely for many reasons, people have different interpretations of hell and once again these have been learnt.
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