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apparently atheist agnostic is contradictory
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RE: apparently atheist agnostic is contradictory
Lol poaracas, that is indeed what I said (more nicely). Apophenias post helped a lit and from there I concluded they were going off the noun definition of agnostic rather than adjective form. Boy did they shut the hell up! In that thread anyways. Then there's another post I had up that was apparently offensive. It was the first atheist meme I ever posted! Haha ok I did cry because my mom is not talking to me ATM. But I defended myself beautifully thanks to all my atheist friends hereSmile you guys are awesome supportSmile oh and also because my Esquilax is a walking encyclopedia, he shut them up too xD poor Guy has to marry into this crazinessSad
In this whole thing I've figured out that some of my family are dumber than I gave them credit for. Had no idea they were creationists. You'll see what I'm talking about, brb!
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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#22
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Theists have a way of making you think disagreeing with them was the right way to go.
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So the epicness of the response I got from my brother is just.. I had to share Big Grin Has anyone else on this planet heard of the 'chernobyl effect' or did he just make that up?


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Brother: Lol. And tadpoles gestate four legs and amphibean organs in a matter of weeks. Caterpillars transform into butterflies under a month. Mammals grow skeletons and nervous systems inside the womb in less than 10 months!!! Alot of things grow legs...like radioactive fish? Lol. THERES NO RADIATION IN AUSTRALIA!!! Just another example of mankind fucking up the perfect genetic balance of nature and using the chernobylzed species to forget God. Why dont you show the world a fish that doesnt live in a perfectly organized ecosystem? Or a leg that isnt structured like a perfect instrument for locomotion? Or ANY example of how a fish completely unconsciously developing a leg over a period of even ONE million years makes ANY logical sense.for.the.survival of their species? They....live....to be.eaten.... !!!!! Thats why they are in the ocean, and why other ocean creatures eat.them!!! FOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!! !

Me: Species evolve through adaptation. Even Christians don't deny the fact of evolution anymore, except creationists. Wolves to dogs for example has been proven through the use of genetics. In the fossil record there is a clear description of the evolution of a horse, fish onto land, Australopithecines evolving into hominids, synapsid reptile into mammals, Archaeopteryx, tiktallik, the list goes on brother. These nine species of fish are not from Chernobyl, I assure you that; the reference for this photo is from National Geographic: taken off the coast of Australia.
And fyi lol doesn't go with all caps letters successfully either.



Brother:
wolves to dogs isnt evolution. its the complete opposite actually. its actually a great example of the chernobyl effect i mentioned that you took literally for someone. mankinds toxic soup that has poisoned our air and infected our waters is what causes abominations of God's creations. Evolution didnt bring us here because evolution is the very opposite of what God intended; mindless, self indulgent animals killing and raping eachother without recourse or purpose...which sadly is what we have become. No, God wanted people, with souls and endless reservoirs of love for one another. The big bang was God's will, and a Godless fool will always jump to a scientific discovery as evidence for their mindless theories of evolution and eternal immorality.


Esquilax: Mindless theories? I'll tell you what, Mikey: when you can provide even a single shred of evidence for your god, then I'll take your baseless assertion that he exists seriously. Meanwhile, science has proven over and over again, through indisputable genetic data (human chromosome 2, look it up) a stunningly well documented morphological and fossil record, as well as the powerful, entirely accurate predictive capabilities that evolutionary theory encompasses. So, on the one hand, actual evidence, and on the other... nothing. Absolutely nothing. Good job you have faith, because it's the only thing you have to confirm the existence of ANYTHING in your bible. More than that, you do understand you'll need to demonstrate that god exists before you can say evolution is false because it's not what he intended, right? Because otherwise, it's just more baseless nothing. More than that, do you have any evidence of this "chernobyl effect?" Because biology has furnished countless fossil examples of transitional species when humans didn't even exist. My favorite is Tiktaalik Rosae, something that actually existed in the world, and has left evidence that it did. So... hey. Perhaps I seem irritated here. That's because I am: the scientific community has spent over a hundred years developing and refining evolutionary theory, providing mountains of evidence and using the knowledge gained to improve lives in countless ways, and then you, without a single day of training in any form of science, declares that your uninformed, unevidenced opinion means so much more that a century of dedicated, detailed study from people that know more than either of us ever will. It's the height of arrogance, and then you have the gall to call science immoral? It just confirms the magnitude of the meaninglessness of your thoughts on this subject.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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(May 3, 2013 at 9:26 am)missluckie26 Wrote: Had no idea they were creationists. You'll see what I'm talking about, brb!

Bathroom break? Wink
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RE: apparently atheist agnostic is contradictory
(May 1, 2013 at 7:09 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: I was trying to make it easier on them by letting them know I didn't for sure know there isn't a god Ryantology.. I consider myself an atheist because I don't believe there is. Fml oh well.

Perhaps you were also hoping that they'd make it easier on you if you made a concession. Since they've decided to go on the attack, you can simply put the burden of proof on them, but I suspect that won't go any better. My advice-- don't worry yourself about how they will feel about it; either they'll realize that you're more important to them than their religious beliefs, or they won't.

It sounds as if they want this to be your problem. Let it be their problem. Tell them you're going to shake the dust off of your sandals before you leave. Big Grin
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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I'm glad that things worked out for you, missluckie. You're a wonderful person and don't deserve to be treated that way.


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I hope your brother is a good sport. Some people can't handle being pwned.
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Whateverist: LOL no, I had to switch from my mobile so you could see that awesome memeBig Grin

Thanks ApopheniaSmile I'm still being blacked out by any word from anyone now Sad

Mister Agenda.. No he's so NOT a good sport, he sicked mom on me Tongue
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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RE: apparently atheist agnostic is contradictory
(May 1, 2013 at 7:09 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: I was trying to make it easier on them by letting them know I didn't for sure know there isn't a god Ryantology.. I consider myself an atheist because I don't believe there is. Fml oh well.

Well, I might be God. None of our theists has yet to disprove my assertion. I promise, I'm a heck of a lot more loving of humanity than is their petty little pretender. I won't punish you for not becoming my slave.
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