(May 13, 2013 at 7:33 pm)Gnosis Wrote: Well that is my point, it is something. But the majority of people would assume nothing means the lack of anything or not anything. Nothing can't be something. Its counter intuitive.
Nothing is the lack of anything, and it isn't anything. Except nothing. So that's something.
Nothing is everything, and everything is something, therefore nothing is something.
It's not counter-intuitive at all... what would be counter-intuitive is nothing not being something.
(May 13, 2013 at 7:39 pm)whateverist Wrote: Well, can't it just be the idea of nothing, an item in our subjective experience but not physically extant so far as we can tell?
You're saying there is no nothing, that everything is something, and there's not nothing outside of everything?
That's... a unique perspective. I am inclined to disagree, of course
(May 13, 2013 at 7:41 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: So will you guys come work for me? I'll pay you something: nothing in fact, which is something, not nothing. No one would work for nothing right? That would be daft.
Well, I would work for nothing, if I had the whim to do so. Nothing is infact both nothing, and something
In some ways nothing is also everything.
(May 13, 2013 at 8:03 pm)Gnosis Wrote: Using an example of working for 'nothing' to relate to a Plausible theory in quantum physics that states nothing is actually something is daft.
Well, quite simply: if nothing isn't nothing, it isn't nothing. Therefore not only is it something, but it's misappropriately named nothing given that it possesses none of the qualities of nothing.
Maybe the guy who writes this theory should explain that 'nothing' isn't infact nothing, so that way we can understand nothing to be nothing, and this something to be non-nothing? Yes, I think that's best.
(May 13, 2013 at 8:30 pm)Sal Wrote: A confusion between term and semantics if I ever saw one.
Designating a zero amount isn't quite the same as the empty set Ø.
Zero amount... isn't the same... as an empty set zero...?
Where did you come up with that one? XD That's great, man.
... Wait... you're not actually serious, are you? 0.o
(May 14, 2013 at 11:31 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Well, you could pay me a thousand dollars and I could do work that nets you a thousand dollars and your gain would be nothing.
I'd say you're being overpayed, but damn if you don't speak the truth.