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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III
May 25, 2013 at 4:56 am
I have no fucking clue what the point of that was but physics tells us that a coin has a 1 in 6000 chance of landing on it's side....
Quote:Experiments and models of physical coin flipping are given in:
Diaconis, Holmes, and Montgomery, Dynamical Bias in the Coin Toss comptop.stanford.edu/preprints/heads.pdf
and
Murray and Teare, The probability of a tossed coin falling on its edge, Phys. Rev. E. 2547-2552 (1993)
abstract of 1993 paper: "An experiment is reported in which an object which can rest in multiple stable configurations is dropped with randomized initial conditions from a height onto a flat surface. The effect of varying the object’s shape on the probability of landing in the less stable configuration is measured. A dynamical model of the experiment is introduced and solved by numerical simulations. Results of the experiments and simulations are in good agreement, confirming that the model incorporates the essential features of the dynamics of the tossing experiment. Extrapolations based on the model suggest that the probability of an American nickel landing on edge is approximately 1 in 6000 tosses."
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III
May 25, 2013 at 4:58 am
(This post was last modified: May 25, 2013 at 4:58 am by Dragonetti.)
I am guessing god had something to do with the coin landing on its side?
But, the coin is man made!
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III
May 25, 2013 at 6:08 am
Dafuq?
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III
May 25, 2013 at 6:17 am
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(May 25, 2013 at 4:36 am)Esquilax Wrote: In fact, you done fucked up in the most severe of ways... I don't mean functional replacement
I mean to produce the same, i.e. I'll give you some skin cells, and you are required to develop an Eye from them in 100 iteration of development.
Then I'll convert to Atheism
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III
May 25, 2013 at 6:20 am
Not much of a "scholar" are you MS?
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III
May 25, 2013 at 6:24 am
(May 25, 2013 at 6:17 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: I don't mean functional replacement
I mean to produce the same, i.e. I'll give you some skin cells, and you are required to develop an Eye from them in 100 iteration of development.
Then I'll convert to Atheism
Dude, we already knew you don't understand the first thing about evolution: you don't need to give us more evidence of that!
To begin with, what you're asking for has nothing to do with evolution, and if you'd bothered to do any research you'd know that. Second, it'd take more than a hundred generations to get anywhere, yet further evidence of your all consuming ignorance.
Third, I'll just point out the complete ridiculousness of asking for something, and then shaking your head when I over deliver. We made an entire new being out of those cells. That's more than what you asked for, and yet your position hasn't changed...
Could it be that you're dishonestly representing yourself as open minded when in fact you're a fanatic with no care as to what the truth actually is? 
How much research into actual, peer reviewed science did you actually do before coming to your conclusions, "Scholar?"
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III
May 25, 2013 at 6:32 am
(May 25, 2013 at 4:58 am)Dragonetti Wrote: I am guessing god had something to do with the coin landing on its side?
But, the coin is man made! I'm sure now that you are an Idiot!
I gave an example where your point of view is correct (i.e. a random process is the case)
but as you are in denial, you can reject your own view if it will lead to God.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III
May 25, 2013 at 6:33 am
(May 25, 2013 at 6:17 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: I don't mean functional replacement
I mean to produce the same, i.e. I'll give you some skin cells, and you are required to develop an Eye from them in 100 iteration of development.
Ever heard of stem cells?
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III
May 25, 2013 at 6:36 am
(May 25, 2013 at 6:24 am)Esquilax Wrote: To begin with, what you're asking for has nothing to do with evolution Trying to evade my refutation.
Quote: and if you'd bothered to do any research you'd know that. Second, it'd take more than a hundred generations to get anywhere, yet further evidence of your all consuming ignorance.
Yes, it will take hundreds of generations (if it is UN-intelligent)
but as we consider our self intelligent, then we should replicate it in few months.
If it will take from you the same time, then you are as-intelligent (Stupid) as the process.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III
May 25, 2013 at 6:51 am
I am the moron? How so?
You are claiming god had a hand and cared how the coins land. That seem very pathetic.
Evolution coupled with natural selection help evolve the world, which is not very random. You keep on with this random subject. You want to believe some type of intelligence behind this. Again, you have to prove this intelligence, and I do not mean some backhanded/backdoor way, which is illogical. I do not want to read the words, you have to prove there isn't. You are the one making the claim, and I am not. Please provide the PROOF of this intelligent creator. I want pictures and videos with today's news paper, DNA/RNA test, and resurrection of zombie Jesus and Mohammad.
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