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RE: The flaws of Hell
June 15, 2013 at 11:30 pm
(June 15, 2013 at 5:21 pm)Godschild Wrote: So you fill qualified to speak for God, someone you do not believe exists, and you call us delusional.
So, if you do not believe that unicorns exist (even though your bible said they do, but let's not dwell on that), do you feel that you are qualified enough to speak about unicorns ?
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RE: The flaws of Hell
June 16, 2013 at 12:58 am
(June 14, 2013 at 11:23 pm)Godschild Wrote: (June 14, 2013 at 10:51 pm)Savannahw Wrote: Personally I find the biggest flaw to be that it is eternal. Infinite punishment for finite sin.
Sin is not finite, if it is not forgiven by God sin is eternal, why, because sin is committed against the eternal God thus eternal sin and an eternal punishment. So an infinite and infinitely powerful entity is unable to forgive the petty misdemeanours of his own transitory creations and therefore must condemn them to an infinity of agonising torture of what are in the long run minor indiscretions.
And ultimately, the only unforgivable sin is refusing to believe in your god. He will forgive anything else, even mass murder and rape.
Extremely unpleasant god you have there GC.
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RE: The flaws of Hell
June 16, 2013 at 2:52 pm
(June 15, 2013 at 11:30 pm)FifthElement Wrote: (June 15, 2013 at 5:21 pm)Godschild Wrote: So you fill qualified to speak for God, someone you do not believe exists, and you call us delusional.
So, if you do not believe that unicorns exist (even though your bible said they do, but let's not dwell on that), do you feel that you are qualified enough to speak about unicorns ?
Let's dwell on that, were does scripture say unicorns exist, I've definitely missed that one?
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: The flaws of Hell
June 16, 2013 at 2:56 pm
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Unicorns in the bible:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles...s-in-bible
Quote:Some people claim the Bible is a book of fairy tales because it mentions unicorns. However, the biblical unicorn was a real animal, not an imaginary creature. The Bible refers to the unicorn in the context of familiar animals, such as peacocks, lambs, lions, bullocks, goats, donkeys, horses, dogs, eagles, and calves (Job 39:9–12.1) In Job 38–41, God reminded Job of the characteristics of a variety of impressive animals He had created, showing Job that God was far above man in power and strength.2
Job had to be familiar with the animals on God’s list for the illustration to be effective. God points out in Job 39:9–12 that the unicorn, “whose strength is great,” is useless for agricultural work, refusing to serve man or “harrow (plow) the valley.” This visual aid gave Job a glimpse of God’s greatness. An imaginary fantasy animal would have defeated the purpose of God’s illustration.
Modern readers have trouble with the Bible’s unicorns because we forget that a single-horned feature is not uncommon on God’s menu for animal design. (Consider the rhinoceros and narwhal.) The Bible describes unicorns skipping like calves (Psalm 29:6), traveling like bullocks, and bleeding when they die (Isaiah 34:7). The presence of a very strong horn on this powerful, independent-minded creature is intended to make readers think of strength.
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RE: The flaws of Hell
June 16, 2013 at 3:01 pm
(June 16, 2013 at 12:58 am)Zen Badger Wrote: (June 14, 2013 at 11:23 pm)Godschild Wrote: Sin is not finite, if it is not forgiven by God sin is eternal, why, because sin is committed against the eternal God thus eternal sin and an eternal punishment. So an infinite and infinitely powerful entity is unable to forgive the petty misdemeanours of his own transitory creations and therefore must condemn them to an infinity of agonising torture of what are in the long run minor indiscretions.
And ultimately, the only unforgivable sin is refusing to believe in your god. He will forgive anything else, even mass murder and rape.
Extremely unpleasant god you have there GC.
You are misrepresenting scripture, God does not forgive all sin, any sin according to our creator is not minor, and hell is not a place of torture. I wish you and the other nonbelievers here would grow up, give up your childish behavior and act like responsible adults. You get bent out of shape when believers misrepresent evolution as you understand it. Rejecting the Holy Spirit is the only unforgivable sin, one can believe in God and still reject the calling of the Holy Spirit.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: The flaws of Hell
June 16, 2013 at 3:40 pm
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(June 15, 2013 at 2:11 pm)Godschild Wrote: I know more about the word [love] and what it means than you can ever comprehend.
Judging from your quick condemnation [to something called 'hell' which i presume is bad] of everything that disagrees with your interpretation of reality I seriously doubt it.
Much love.
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RE: The flaws of Hell
June 16, 2013 at 4:17 pm
Quote:They invented the hell in order to become intermediaries between God and the ignorant masses
They invented "god" for essentially the same reason. You just need to take the next step.
Don't waste your life as G-C has done.
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RE: The flaws of Hell
June 16, 2013 at 8:20 pm
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(June 14, 2013 at 11:24 pm)Savannahw Wrote: (June 14, 2013 at 11:23 pm)Godschild Wrote: Sin is not finite, if it is not forgiven by God sin is eternal, why, because sin is committed against the eternal God thus eternal sin and an eternal punishment.
Why are you wanting to argue with everything I say today?
Because he's absolutely mental.
(June 16, 2013 at 3:01 pm)Godschild Wrote: (June 16, 2013 at 12:58 am)Zen Badger Wrote: So an infinite and infinitely powerful entity is unable to forgive the petty misdemeanours of his own transitory creations and therefore must condemn them to an infinity of agonising torture of what are in the long run minor indiscretions.
And ultimately, the only unforgivable sin is refusing to believe in your god. He will forgive anything else, even mass murder and rape.
Extremely unpleasant god you have there GC.
You are misrepresenting scripture, God does not forgive all sin, any sin according to our creator is not minor, and hell is not a place of torture. I wish you and the other nonbelievers here would grow up, give up your childish behavior and act like responsible adults. You get bent out of shape when believers misrepresent evolution as you understand it. Rejecting the Holy Spirit is the only unforgivable sin, one can believe in God and still reject the calling of the Holy Spirit.
Can't we just ban this mentalist?
The way he talks to us as if we are five year olds and as if he is some sort of authority figure, and the way he really, really, really believes that his diatribe is FACT, is disturbing to say the least.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.
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RE: The flaws of Hell
June 17, 2013 at 12:28 am
(June 16, 2013 at 2:52 pm)Godschild Wrote: Let's dwell on that, were does scripture say unicorns exist, I've definitely missed that one?
Here is all of them, you take your pick
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RE: The flaws of Hell
June 17, 2013 at 12:38 am
(June 16, 2013 at 2:52 pm)Godschild Wrote: (June 15, 2013 at 11:30 pm)FifthElement Wrote: So, if you do not believe that unicorns exist (even though your bible said they do, but let's not dwell on that), do you feel that you are qualified enough to speak about unicorns ?
Let's dwell on that, were does scripture say unicorns exist, I've definitely missed that one?
I get so tired of explaining your own bullshit to you, G-C. Study harder will you? You are embarrassing yourself.
Quote:7 He scorneth the multitude of the city, neither regardeth he the crying of the driver.
8 The range of the mountains is his pasture, and he searcheth after every green thing.
9 Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?
10 Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?
Job 39
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