Bibles Vs. Direct Observation

[Minimalist]

Man has a body, a conscious mind, and a spirit, the breath of God 3 in 1.

No evidence for the mind, conscious or otherwise, in your case.

[Walking Void]

Exactly what science was God to give Moses about Genesis, what science did anyone of that time have and or truly understand.

Lol, what science does god have knowledge of?

The science of manipulation.

[Dionysius]

From what I understand, the writers of the book claim divine inspiration directly from god.

If they had been divinely inspired by god, the scripture which correlates to science would have been more accurate.

I'm not sure this logically follows. We can't know with certainty the degree of coherency of any (purported) revelatory experience or even what such an experience might signify as experience itself has no explanatory power.

From documented cases of such experiences, i.e. Buddha, Laotse, Jesus, Plato, etc., we can establish a general outline of the effects of inspiration on the character but little else.

Surely, after all, an omniscient being would have given accurate scientific information. Since that is not the case, however, it is apparent that man was not divinely inspired and he simply wrote the book based on his fallible knowledge of the world at the time.

Again I'm not sure this would be an intellectually balanced supposition. If the information in the Genesis creation account can be, in any way, analogized with modern scientific models (i.e. The earth was without form and void paired with the protoplanetary gaseous disks stage) then we should at least consider the possibility that the information was available and just poorly communicated due to semantical limitations. To be clear I'm not trying to validate a belief in a cosmic easter bunny or sky god so much as i am trying to lend plausibility to what can be thought of as an illumination or enlightenment experience.

We can't prove a god but we can see evidence for experiences which cause some persons to believe that there is a god. We know a few, ancient personalities, have had experiences were an external god was
absent and some where it wasn't. I think this would be a good starting point for examining the relevance of any god claims.

[Cyberman]

Problem is, if this enlightenment merely led to no more than was current knowledge for the time - and even considerably less than was known to other civilisations - then where is the illumination? Indeed, if such enlightenment could be shown to be the result of divine revelation, as is the claim, the picture is actually worse, since it would be perfectly justifiable to ask "what the hell was the point?"

Put another way: if I came up to you and told you that rain falls from the sky, would you regard me as some great and insightful genius - even a few thousand years ago, when truly great people were estimating the size and shape of the Earth?

[Dionysius]

Problem is, if this enlightenment merely led to no more than was current knowledge for the time - and even considerably less than was known to other civilisations - then where is the illumination? Indeed, if such enlightenment could be shown to be the result of divine revelation, as is the claim, the picture is actually worse, since it would be perfectly justifiable to ask "what the hell was the point?"

Put another way: if I came up to you and told you that rain falls from the sky, would you regard me as some great and insightful genius - even a few thousand years ago, when truly great people were estimating the size and shape of the Earth?

I think the whole God and the accuracy of insight or divine revelation should be investigated based on those who have experienced it. Something happened to these "nobodies" for lack of better word that empowered them to actualize a pseudo-philosophical system of thought which caused considerable change. A miraculous happening in and of itself.

[Bad Writer]

And Dr. Kevorkian.

[Dionysius]

And Dr. Kevorkian.

Let's not forget Charlie Manson either

[Cyberman]

I think the whole God and the accuracy of insight or divine revelation should be investigated based on those who have experienced it. Something happened to these "nobodies" for lack of better word that empowered them to actualize a pseudo-philosophical system of thought which caused considerable change. A miraculous happening in and of itself.

Unless you're simply engaging in hyperbole, the word "miraculous" is not only misplaced here, it's also begging the question in a most shameless fashion. Even if events played out as you describe, there's no justification to label them as miraculous without bastardising the word such that any event even slightly unusual or remarkable in some other way is a miracle.

[Dionysius]

I think the whole God and the accuracy of insight or divine revelation should be investigated based on those who have experienced it. Something happened to these "nobodies" for lack of better word that empowered them to actualize a pseudo-philosophical system of thought which caused considerable change. A miraculous happening in and of itself.

Unless you're simply engaging in hyperbole, the word "miraculous" is not only misplaced here, it's also begging the question in a most shameless fashion. Even if events played out as you describe, there's no justification to label them as miraculous without bastardising the word such that any event even slightly unusual or remarkable in some other way is a miracle.

Miracle:
an extremely outstanding or unusual event, thing, or accomplishment


This is how I am describing the event of inspiration (whatever that may mean) which caused various individuals to develop a system of thinking and action which created tremendous change. For example, Buddha, Moses, Ghandi, Jesus, Mohammed, etc.

[Walking Void]

"Let there be light

and there was light"

I could imagine that this god at the time of planetary creation had a voice-activated light switch.