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50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
#21
RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
The TAG is the Trancendental Argument for God. Apparently the wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcenden...nce_of_God) is not good enough so Arcanus posted a link to this: http://butler-harris.org/tag/

I have yet to read the whole thing but it is the site that he offered up as a reliable description of the TAG.

Rhizo
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#22
RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
There are different variations of TAG, http://www.carm.org has another one.
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#23
RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
It's perhaps ironic, but if there are multiple versions of TAG, then doesn't the Kant quote at the top of Arcanus' link apply to TAG itself?

Immanual Kant Wrote:If, therefore, we observe the dogmatist coming forward with ten proofs, we can be quite sure that he really has none. For had he one that yielded . . . apodeictic proof, what need would he have of the others?
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RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
(September 25, 2009 at 2:13 am)Retorth Wrote: To the christian fundamentalist, of course it makes sense. If you desire anything to make sense, no matter how senseless it may be, it will, just like Christians claiming god appeared in the shadow of a tree.
This is ignoring the explanation somewhat.

(September 25, 2009 at 8:27 am)Dotard Wrote: And Frodo, stating a nonsensical contradictory claim and backing it up with "because God said so" or "because christianity affirms it" does not simple logic make.
As is this.
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#25
RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
Not ignoring the explanations offered. I'm not buying them. I don't accept them when the expalinations are just as non sensical as the problem.

Teacher: If you have eight apples and you give away seven, how many do you have left?
Johnny: One!
Teacher: Yes. And you also have three.
Johnny: Wha?
Teacher: Three equals one and one is equal to three. So if you have three you also have one and if you have one you also have three.
Johnny: Now that's just nonsense teacher. How do you figure that?!
Teacher: Because christianity has affirmed this for a long long time. Therefore it is true.
Johnny: I don't care if my momma has "affirmed" this. It's bullocks. One is one and three is three. They are not interchangeable.
Teacher: You're just ignoring the explaination.

*Johnny thinks to himself to avoid detention or a possible beating* ... Well yeah I'm going to ignore that explaination. It's like me asking you to accept the explaination to the question "Why does it smell so fresh and clean in here?" is because I just crapped my pants.
I used to tell a lot of religious jokes. Not any more, I'm a registered sects offender.
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RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
How is it ignoring?
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#27
RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
You're not addressing the problem IMHO Retorth.

The 3 are 'persons' because what a person 'is' is common to them. The 3 share a common 'essence' which is 'God'.

Here's a pwetty picture:

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#28
RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
So there are 4 persons now?
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#29
RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
Grrr! LOL
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#30
RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
That makes it all clear now. I'm converted. The most paradoxical, insubstantial, untestable, unverifiable claim ever made by man, has been explained with a picture. Cheers dude.
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