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RE: Hungarian court sentences racist murderers to life in prison and 13 years
August 6, 2013 at 6:45 pm
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(August 6, 2013 at 6:33 pm)Chuck Wrote: We insult you because you are ridiculous. You don't actually insult Turks in general even if we seem to do so to needle you in particular, because there is no way any Turks in general can be as ridiculous as you. Not that I really care too much, but that's another problem with you folks. You simply don't wish to accept that you're nothing but two faced fools, that simply cannot hold a certain point of view. A few post back you've tried to belittle our war of independence, I did not want to reply to you, so I've avoided confrontation, and now you claim that I'm ridiculous and that I my being ridiculous is not insulting to Turks in general because they are probably not as ridiculous as me.
Well, why don't you go ahead friend, and call us names as you did before?
And you have done so before, I know that you did. I really don't care that you do, but I'd like to see some solidarity in your words for a change.
On one side you don't want to appear like a person who insults someone for being a Turk(or whatever), but on the other hand you can't refrain from doing so.
At least I show solidarity in my words and in my stance. Something you can't claim.
(August 6, 2013 at 6:45 pm)Chuck Wrote: A gentleman would sooner resort to profanity than to stoop to preening about anything that is not his personal, purposed, accomplishment.
A nationalist doesn't speak for himself, and he prides himself on the accomplishments of his nation as he devotes his accomplishments to his nation.
He has a right to do so.
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RE: Hungarian court sentences racist murderers to life in prison and 13 years
August 6, 2013 at 6:49 pm
You needed a dose of your own medicine, and more.
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August 6, 2013 at 6:51 pm
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(August 6, 2013 at 6:49 pm)Chuck Wrote: You needed a dose of your own medicine, and more.
This is not my medicine. I have taken multiple doses of this medicine before I started to dish it out Chuck. You don't know what you're talking about.
You are nothing. I've faced death and serious injury in defense of my ideals. I've faced expulsion from school. Who do you think you are to administer me "my own medicine"?
You're nothing, you know nothing, and you understand nothing. You're blind.
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RE: Hungarian court sentences racist murderers to life in prison and 13 years
August 6, 2013 at 6:55 pm
(August 6, 2013 at 6:51 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: (August 6, 2013 at 6:49 pm)Chuck Wrote: You needed a dose of your own medicine, and more.
This is not my medicine. I have taken multiple doses of my this medicine before I started to dish it out Chuck. You don't know what you're talking about.
You are nothing. I've faced death and serious injury in defense of my ideals. I've faced expulsion from school. Who do you think you are to administer me "my own medicine"?
You're nothing, you know nothing, and you understand nothing. You're blind.
So you are a ethnic terrorist?
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RE: Hungarian court sentences racist murderers to life in prison and 13 years
August 6, 2013 at 6:55 pm
(August 6, 2013 at 6:55 pm)Chuck Wrote: (August 6, 2013 at 6:51 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: This is not my medicine. I have taken multiple doses of my this medicine before I started to dish it out Chuck. You don't know what you're talking about.
You are nothing. I've faced death and serious injury in defense of my ideals. I've faced expulsion from school. Who do you think you are to administer me "my own medicine"?
You're nothing, you know nothing, and you understand nothing. You're blind.
So you are a ethnic terrorist?
No. I have never broken the law. My criminal record is clean.
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RE: Hungarian court sentences racist murderers to life in prison and 13 years
August 6, 2013 at 6:58 pm
(August 6, 2013 at 6:38 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: I dislike the use of profanity in discussions. I expect a similar courtesy from the opposition. I don't think that politeness is too much to ask for. If you use profanity while I have not, or hint on profane and indecent things that would not be part of a civilized discussion, I have every right to consider you as hostile and rude.
My thoughts or your thoughts do not matter. You may feel insuted or may strongly disagree, but it is not the way a gentleman should act in a discussion. I really do not care what you think about us, I only care what I think about us. Else I would not have been a nationalist while everyone around us strongly dislikes us.
You, and a number of other people here constantly use personal attacks and profanity in order to prove a point. This is not a way to prove a point, its only a way to show that your argument is weak.
I hope I made myself clear. I will not be tossed around like a doll and insulted at every turn.
Oh, I curse all the time. Ever heard the saying "Curses like a sailor." Well I was a sailor for six years. My cursing does not indicate my mood.
If you have a problem with profanity oh well.
I'm not personally attacking you, I'm "attacking" your mindset. It's not one and the same. I don't think I've ever attacked you as a person. Just your nationalistic and grandiose ideas about your people.
As far as being a gentleman I do control my tongue in polite society. But I don't think we should hold ourselves to those standards here. This is probably just a cultural difference. So realize we may be misconstruing each other in ways that are not intended by the person who is talking.
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RE: Hungarian court sentences racist murderers to life in prison and 13 years
August 6, 2013 at 7:06 pm
(August 6, 2013 at 6:58 pm)Rahul Wrote: (August 6, 2013 at 6:38 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: I dislike the use of profanity in discussions. I expect a similar courtesy from the opposition. I don't think that politeness is too much to ask for. If you use profanity while I have not, or hint on profane and indecent things that would not be part of a civilized discussion, I have every right to consider you as hostile and rude.
My thoughts or your thoughts do not matter. You may feel insuted or may strongly disagree, but it is not the way a gentleman should act in a discussion. I really do not care what you think about us, I only care what I think about us. Else I would not have been a nationalist while everyone around us strongly dislikes us.
You, and a number of other people here constantly use personal attacks and profanity in order to prove a point. This is not a way to prove a point, its only a way to show that your argument is weak.
I hope I made myself clear. I will not be tossed around like a doll and insulted at every turn.
Oh, I curse all the time. Ever heard the saying "Curses like a sailor." Well I was a sailor for six years. My cursing does not indicate my mood.
If you have a problem with profanity oh well.
I'm not personally attacking you, I'm "attacking" your mindset. It's not one and the same. I don't think I've ever attacked you as a person. Just your nationalistic and grandiose ideas about your people.
As far as being a gentleman I do control my tongue in polite society. But I don't think we should hold ourselves to those standards here. This is probably just a cultural difference. So realize we may be misconstruing each other in ways that are not intended by the person who is talking. You can attack my mindset all you like, but do so with politeness, if that is not much to ask.
I think that I conform to the standards of politeness in civil society, and I would very much like to be treated in the same way.
My father was and is still a sailor too, I know what you're talking about, but using profanity is not the way to get a point across, and it won't convince me to think otherwise.
I'm also not really disturbed by personal attacks, I simply find them irrelevant, as I do not speak on the behalf of my own person, I speak on the behalf of an ideology.
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RE: Hungarian court sentences racist murderers to life in prison and 13 years
August 6, 2013 at 7:10 pm
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(August 6, 2013 at 7:06 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: You can attack my mindset all you like, but do so with politeness, if that is not much to ask.
I think that I conform to the standards of politeness in civil society, and I would very much like to be treated in the same way.
My father was and is still a sailor too, I know what you're talking about, but using profanity is not the way to get a point across, and it won't convince me to think otherwise.
I'm also not really disturbed by personal attacks, I simply find them irrelevant, as I do not speak on the behalf of my own person, I speak on the behalf of an ideology.
And I'm attacking your ideology.
You talk like you think the Turkish people are some great people and above the rest of humanity. This is the same mindset the brought forth the holocaust and has been researched by psychologists for decades.
Don't fall into that trap.
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RE: Hungarian court sentences racist murderers to life in prison and 13 years
August 6, 2013 at 7:15 pm
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(August 6, 2013 at 7:10 pm)Rahul Wrote: (August 6, 2013 at 7:06 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: You can attack my mindset all you like, but do so with politeness, if that is not much to ask.
I think that I conform to the standards of politeness in civil society, and I would very much like to be treated in the same way.
My father was and is still a sailor too, I know what you're talking about, but using profanity is not the way to get a point across, and it won't convince me to think otherwise.
I'm also not really disturbed by personal attacks, I simply find them irrelevant, as I do not speak on the behalf of my own person, I speak on the behalf of an ideology.
And I'm attacking your ideology.
You talk like you think the Turkish people are some great people and above the rest of humanity. This is the same mindset the brought for the holocaust and has been researched by psychologists for decades.
Don't fall into that trap.
Well, if I think so, there must a reason that I think that way.
And it's funny that people like to bring up the holocaust card. We've got no trap prepared for anyone, instead, we're trying to save people from the traps laid by internationalists in order to turn people in mankurts.
And to be honest, my friend, I'm not claiming that we're greater than the rest of humanity. Humanity is really a a broad description. Is there any greatness in being just human? No, of course not. Greatness is in deeds, and I see a similar greatness in only a single nation besides mine. Hell, we might have been brothers born from the same womb. The only difference is we reside in the east, and they reside in the west.
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RE: Hungarian court sentences racist murderers to life in prison and 13 years
August 6, 2013 at 7:30 pm
(August 6, 2013 at 7:15 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well, if I think so, there must a reason that I think that way.
Indeed. There is a reason. Indoctrination.
Here in the States us Texans have indoctrination about being Texans. We're taught in a hundred ways that Texas is the greatest state in the US. Everything is bigger in Texas, Texas is like a whole other country, songs, food (Texas style), etc.
The problem with this is that Texans are overly proud of being from Texas. So, in the military a lot of people hate Texans because they think so much about their home state.
There's nothing great about Texas compared to any other state. We have better things and worse things going on compared to any other state.
But we are casually raised to believe that Texas is the greatest, most awesome state ever. And it's all bull.
I think you've fallen for the same thing about your country.
This is where you need to show some independence of thought and rationally examine why you feel this way. And determine if it is warranted.
It if is warranted then you should be able to tell everyone else the exact reasons why this is the case and we wouldn't be able to refute your facts. If you can't you're just indoctrinated with a false and grandiose concept and going along with the idea because it's a boost to your self-esteem.
What I find most disturbing is your idea that the only thing that matters to you is your country. And you're just a cog in the wheel. No other ultimate purpose but to do whatever will advance the goals of your nation.
With this mindset you can justify doing the most horrifying and terrible things. Happily so. All in service to your nation.
Because your nation is all that really matters, right?
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