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Save the Fucking Banks...at any cost!
#11
RE: Save the Fucking Banks...at any cost!
(August 6, 2013 at 6:53 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
(August 6, 2013 at 5:35 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Go, brave comrade of the revolution. Lynch those bourgeois assholes!

I always knew you were a secret commie.

"The lady doth protest too much."

But really, I am not in favour of hanging the bankers, but it wasn't me who gave them the power to fuck up the countries economy. They need the banks, so they save them.
Saving the banks is not a solution, but letting them fall is no solution either.
The solution lies in changing the system.
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#12
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(August 6, 2013 at 5:25 pm)Tonus Wrote: If an institution is too big to fail, then maybe we need to cut it down to size.

(August 6, 2013 at 6:54 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:
(August 6, 2013 at 6:53 pm)Faith No More Wrote: I always knew you were a secret commie.

"The lady doth protest too much."

But really, I am not in favour of hanging the bankers, but it wasn't me who gave them the power to fuck up the countries economy. They need the banks, so they save them.
Saving the banks is not a solution, but letting them fall is no solution either.
The solution lies in changing the system.

And what, pray tell, is the system change you would enact?
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#13
RE: Save the Fucking Banks...at any cost!
(August 6, 2013 at 6:54 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: But really, I am not in favour of hanging the bankers, but it wasn't me who gave them the power to fuck up the countries economy. They need the banks, so they save them.
Saving the banks is not a solution, but letting them fall is no solution either.
The solution lies in changing the system.

I didn't give the bankers the ability to fuck up the economy, either. The problem is that these people see no negative consequences for their deceitful and callous practices. Perhaps vigilante justice is just what the doctor ordered.

As for true solutions, one of them, bailouts, perpetuates the flawed system, while letting them fail would force us to fix it. The short-term would be painful, but in the long-term we would be better off. It appears that serious change will only be brought about through allowing the system to collapse on itself.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#14
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You don't have to hang them all.

One or two should be enough to give the rest of the fucks the message.
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#15
RE: Save the Fucking Banks...at any cost!
(August 6, 2013 at 7:12 pm)Captain Colostomy Wrote:
(August 6, 2013 at 5:25 pm)Tonus Wrote: If an institution is too big to fail, then maybe we need to cut it down to size.

(August 6, 2013 at 6:54 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: But really, I am not in favour of hanging the bankers, but it wasn't me who gave them the power to fuck up the countries economy. They need the banks, so they save them.
Saving the banks is not a solution, but letting them fall is no solution either.
The solution lies in changing the system.

And what, pray tell, is the system change you would enact?

That the bank's role in the money cycle be shared by the government. That the government has a stronger hand in domestic economy.
Quote:I didn't give the bankers the ability to fuck up the economy, either. The problem is that these people see no negative consequences for their deceitful and callous practices. Perhaps vigilante justice is just what the doctor ordered.
Is this about justice? If so, you may very well go and kill them, and kill their families while you're at it, just to even the scales.
Will it help? No.

Quote:As for true solutions, one of them, bailouts, perpetuates the flawed system, while letting them fail would force us to fix it.
Forcing things is not the way to do it. Because force will often meet with an equal force on whatever you exert it on.
Quote: The short-term would be painful, but in the long-term we would be better off.
Well, radical action is okay, but it must be done with the people.
You must win hearts and minds, which will force tyrants to abdicate their throne.
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(August 6, 2013 at 7:22 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Is this about justice? If so, you may very well go and kill them, and kill their families while you're at it, just to even the scales.
Will it help? No.

It was just hyperbolic rhetoric. I'm not actually advocating lynching bankers. I'm just using that as a device to express my distaste for the conseuqences, or lack thereof, these people face.

(August 6, 2013 at 7:22 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Forcing things is not the way to do it. Because force will often meet with an equal force on whatever you exert it on.

Allowing them to go bankrupt is not forcing things. In fact, it is quite the opposite.

(August 6, 2013 at 7:22 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well, radical action is okay, but it must be done with the people.
You must win hearts and minds, which will force tyrants to abdicate their throne.

Except the people appear to be powerless against these tyrants. Short of dire consequences, they will abdicate nothing.
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Quote:It was just hyperbolic rhetoric. I'm not actually advocating lynching bankers. I'm just using that as a device to express my distaste for the conseuqences, or lack thereof, these people face.
Well, that must prove how much they actually call the shots around there.
Else no one would have cared, would they?
Quote:Allowing them to go bankrupt is not forcing things. In fact, it is quite the opposite.
I wasn't talking about that though. I'm not an economist, so I try to make my statements to be about things that I know better, but what do you think would have happened if the banks would have gone banktupt?
Quote:Except the people appear to be powerless against these tyrants. Short of dire consequences, they will abdicate nothing.
The people are never powerless. As a matter of fact, people are the power. Banks are there to serve people, not the opposite.
If every american withdrew their money from the banks, they would go bankrupt. So why don't you do it?
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#18
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Quote: Banks are there to serve people, not the opposite.

Can I have a hit off of whatever the hell you are smoking?
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(August 6, 2013 at 8:07 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote: Banks are there to serve people, not the opposite.

Can I have a hit off of whatever the hell you are smoking?

Well, that is what their primary purpose should be. "Interest" is what makes banks the evil that they are.
They are legal loansharks, and they deceive the people by giving them interest. And people always welcome money that they do not earn by their sweat and blood. Outlaw interest, and the power of the banks will diminish.
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#20
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Quote:Well, that is what their primary purpose should be.

In your opinion. Certainly not in theirs.
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