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Christians, why are you hear (If you want to convert atheists read this)
September 4, 2013 at 12:51 am
I'm going to put converting atheists into a simple 3 step program
1. Prove there is a god
2. Prove that it is the god of your religion
3. Prove that god is worship worthy, have at it.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Christians, why are you hear (If you want to convert atheists read this)
September 4, 2013 at 12:58 am
Baiting theists, are we? 
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RE: Christians, why are you hear (If you want to convert atheists read this)
September 4, 2013 at 5:08 am
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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RE: Christians, why are you hear (If you want to convert atheists read this)
September 4, 2013 at 6:05 am
These are questions Drich considers last resorts. Really, the only reason conversations between theists and atheists are even possible is because we're too kind to answer every claim with these questions.
The fact that we consider our own best points dead horses indicates that arguing with a theist is only as fair as the atheist is willing to make it fair.
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RE: Christians, why are you hear (If you want to convert atheists read this)
September 4, 2013 at 8:58 am
I've a better question.
Christians - ignoring the reality of God can you please prove to me why exactly there are so many view points concerning a God which gave you a Holy Spirit to tell you the truth!
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RE: Christians, why are you hear (If you want to convert atheists read this)
September 4, 2013 at 9:19 am
(September 4, 2013 at 12:51 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: I'm going to put converting atheists into a simple 3 step program
1. Prove there is a god
2. Prove that it is the god of your religion
3. Prove that god is worship worthy, have at it.
Proof of God according to God is not the burden of the believer. It is the promise of the Father out lined by Christ in Luke 11. We as believers can only point to the promise of God to reveal Himself to anyone who A/S/Ks
If you are looking for 'proof' then petition God as He has instructed, and you will be blessed just like everyone else who has done this.
Side note, you are aware that epericus was not speaking of the God of the bible when he first introduced his supposed paradox right? As a Greek living in 2300 years ago he would have had no knoweledge of the God of Abraham. He was speaking to the greek gods of his day.
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RE: Christians, why are you hear (If you want to convert atheists read this)
September 4, 2013 at 9:23 am
(September 4, 2013 at 9:19 am)Drich Wrote: If you are looking for 'proof' then petition God as He has instructed, and you will be blessed just like everyone else who has done this.
Now now, Drich, don't write checks you can't cash.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Christians, why are you hear (If you want to convert atheists read this)
September 4, 2013 at 9:32 am
(This post was last modified: September 4, 2013 at 9:35 am by LastPoet.)
I smell fish around here, I wonder if somethings fishy 
*sniffs around*
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RE: Christians, why are you hear (If you want to convert atheists read this)
September 4, 2013 at 9:37 am
(September 4, 2013 at 9:23 am)Faith No More Wrote: (September 4, 2013 at 9:19 am)Drich Wrote: If you are looking for 'proof' then petition God as He has instructed, and you will be blessed just like everyone else who has done this.
Now now, Drich, don't write checks you can't cash.
I've said this from the beginning. which is why I keep pointing out that asking us to provide proof of God is a cop out arguement.
Christians in mass are not bakers, they are beggers who know where to go to find bread. If you want bread then you yourself will have to follow the instructions on how to get it just like we did. we can not produce/bake the bread for you. This is something you have to do on your own.
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RE: Christians, why are you hear (If you want to convert atheists read this)
September 4, 2013 at 10:00 am
(September 4, 2013 at 9:37 am)Drich Wrote: I've said this from the beginning. which is why I keep pointing out that asking us to provide proof of God is a cop out arguement.
Christians in mass are not bakers, they are beggers who know where to go to find bread. If you want bread then you yourself will have to follow the instructions on how to get it just like we did. we can not produce/bake the bread for you. This is something you have to do on your own.
What? Just because of your romantic view on christianity, it bares nothing in reality Drich. Your whole idea is inherently narcisistic! You speak for god, a god, something you admit to be far from. Yet you proclaim properties from such. How can't you see that?
If your analogy is true, then you christians should update, do what you preach, for once. We have bread for you (well, not the literal bread, but food for thought, bread enough you should a/s/k your majority of christians why there is enough food for the people in this world and all the true christians keep gathering fortunes). You should a/s/k yourself why do you stand for such dogma.
This does not mean to dismiss your ideas, just to say that you are allowing your ideas to be smeared by ancient dogma, from times we knew half of a shitbag we know today.
/rant
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