What's everyone up to right now?

[Losty]

Getting sick. Sore throat
Drinking lots of water and about to go to bed.

* Alice sends Get-Well-Soon hugs and kisses and chicken noodle soup for your soul-ANUSIUS BE PRAISED!!

It's not getting better and I have a feeling someone is going to make me see a doctor about it

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Hmmm.

Losty sick and more vulnerable.


Must plan special COLOR attack with super vivid balloons and exotic flowers and giant fuzzy cuddly bunnies !!!


Beats hallucinating on DayQuil !!!

If you're going to keep making me fall in love with you, the least you could do is become bisexual. Jeesh
"giant fuzzy cuddly bunnies"

[KevinM1]

Remembering how frustrating it can be to offer programming help online. A PHP newbie on Stack Overflow has a pretty simple problem to solve, but they know nothing about database normalization. So, they want to put editable config data as single strings in a DB, then pull it out, use regular expressions to parse it, then use eval() to run it. The only bad/dumb thing they don't want to do is use globals.

So, I suggested that they look into database normalization and the basics of OOP (both of which are too broad to present as an answer on there) in order to rethink and restructure their architecture. Their response? "Thanks, but what you wrote really has nothing to do with my question. I didn't talk about normalization or OOP in my question." Head desk.

I guess my polite version of "You don't know the fundamentals of web programming, as evidenced by your assertion that the only two ways you can think about approaching the problem is either to hard code the config values in your PHP, or save them as unnormalized strings in a DB to ultimately be eval()'ed. You really need to learn the basics by at least glancing at what I recommended. That will give you the tools to fix your architecture" didn't sink in.

Dude still doesn't get it: http://stackoverflow.com/a/28656282/399584

"I do know database normalization. Now can you tell me how to fix my architecture?"
"If you actually knew database normalization, you wouldn't have this problem. That your first instinct was to hard code this config data, or store it in strings to be parsed by regex later shows me that you don't actually know it. Go learn it."

I used to run into that kind of thing all the time when I was a mod on PHPFreaks. Lots of people wanted to be spoon fed an answer that they could just copy/paste into their scripts without thinking. Unless it's something trivial, I don't do that. Especially when someone else gives a really good starting point.

There are a ton of shitty code monkeys out there who can't code themselves out of a paper bag. I'll be damned if I help create more. Learn, or GTFO.

Then again, before my work on the CMS I worked on, my clients were mostly small business owners who were screwed over by people who couldn't even install WordPress (blech) correctly. People who charged $500 or more for something that looked and ran like a turd sandwich. So, shitty wannabe coders aren't all bad.

[Losty]

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Remembering how frustrating it can be to offer programming help online. A PHP newbie on Stack Overflow has a pretty simple problem to solve, but they know nothing about database normalization. So, they want to put editable config data as single strings in a DB, then pull it out, use regular expressions to parse it, then use eval() to run it. The only bad/dumb thing they don't want to do is use globals.

So, I suggested that they look into database normalization and the basics of OOP (both of which are too broad to present as an answer on there) in order to rethink and restructure their architecture. Their response? "Thanks, but what you wrote really has nothing to do with my question. I didn't talk about normalization or OOP in my question." Head desk.

I guess my polite version of "You don't know the fundamentals of web programming, as evidenced by your assertion that the only two ways you can think about approaching the problem is either to hard code the config values in your PHP, or save them as unnormalized strings in a DB to ultimately be eval()'ed. You really need to learn the basics by at least glancing at what I recommended. That will give you the tools to fix your architecture" didn't sink in.

Dude still doesn't get it: http://stackoverflow.com/a/28656282/399584

"I do know database normalization. Now can you tell me how to fix my architecture?"
"If you actually knew database normalization, you wouldn't have this problem. That your first instinct was to hard code this config data, or store it in strings to be parsed by regex later shows me that you don't actually know it. Go learn it."

I used to run into that kind of thing all the time when I was a mod on PHPFreaks. Lots of people wanted to be spoon fed an answer that they could just copy/paste into their scripts without thinking. Unless it's something trivial, I don't do that. Especially when someone else gives a really good starting point.

There are a ton of shitty code monkeys out there who can't code themselves out of a paper bag. I'll be damned if I help create more. Learn, or GTFO.

Then again, before my work on the CMS I worked on, my clients were mostly small business owners who were screwed over by people who couldn't even install WordPress (blech) correctly. People who charged $500 or more for something that looked and ran like a turd sandwich. So, shitty wannabe coders aren't all bad.

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Translation: dude asking questions about computery stuff knows less about computery stuff than Kevin, but a lot more computery stuff than Losty...hehe

[Angrboda]

Waiting for my ride to a book club. We'll be discussing Sagan's The Demon Haunted World.

[Esquilax]

It's not getting better and I have a feeling someone is going to make me see a doctor about it

Still better than having to manipulate circumstances so that doctors will see you at all: we had to wait for Luckie's fever to intensify before she went to the hospital, just to ensure they'd actually admit her. It ended up being higher than I've ever seen it.

Your health's important, Losty. I'm learning that more and more; don't let your dislike for doctor's appointments get in the way of your recovery.

[The Valkyrie]

It's not getting better and I have a feeling someone is going to make me see a doctor about it

Still better than having to manipulate circumstances so that doctors will see you at all: we had to wait for Luckie's fever to intensify before she went to the hospital, just to ensure they'd actually admit her. It ended up being higher than I've ever seen it.

Your health's important, Losty. I'm learning that more and more; don't let your dislike for doctor's appointments get in the way of your recovery.

^^^^^

This.

Better a little discomfort now than potentially a whole lot later.

[Losty]

It's not getting better and I have a feeling someone is going to make me see a doctor about it

Still better than having to manipulate circumstances so that doctors will see you at all: we had to wait for Luckie's fever to intensify before she went to the hospital, just to ensure they'd actually admit her. It ended up being higher than I've ever seen it.

Your health's important, Losty. I'm learning that more and more; don't let your dislike for doctor's appointments get in the way of your recovery.

Bah I already get to hear the lecturing. :p

I don't have a dislike for doctors appointments. I had years of seeing doctors and having to be sure to say the exact right things the exact right way and be convincing enough for the scary man sitting next to me to approve. He almost never did. Doctors and hospitals terrify me for irrational reasons, or maybe it's not so irrational.

I know my health is important and I try my best to take care of it, but it seems every time I start to get better I get sick again. I'm just lucky that I don't have it as bad as Luckie, if I had to be in the hospital that often I might have a nervous breakdown.

[The Valkyrie]

Still better than having to manipulate circumstances so that doctors will see you at all: we had to wait for Luckie's fever to intensify before she went to the hospital, just to ensure they'd actually admit her. It ended up being higher than I've ever seen it.

Your health's important, Losty. I'm learning that more and more; don't let your dislike for doctor's appointments get in the way of your recovery.

Bah I already get to hear the lecturing. :p

I don't have a dislike for doctors appointments. I had years of seeing doctors and having to be sure to say the exact right things the exact right way and be convincing enough for the scary man sitting next to me to approve. He almost never did. Doctors and hospitals terrify me for irrational reasons, or maybe it's not so irrational.

I know my health is important and I try my best to take care of it, but it seems every time I start to get better I get sick again. I'm just lucky that I don't have it as bad as Luckie, if I had to be in the hospital that often I might have a nervous breakdown.

If you're terrified of doctors, just imagine surgeons.

They're fucking nuts!

[Brakeman]

Getting sick. Sore throat
Drinking lots of water and about to go to bed.

Have you tried taking two doves and sacrificing one to sky daddy and dipping the other in the blood of the first one and flinging the blood on your wall? That was pretty standard medical practice in the day ... oh wait thats for leprosy!
You don't think you've got leprosy do you?

Maybe you should get a stripped pole and some goats ... naw, that not right either. Sorry, I need to go back and read my old middle eastern goat farmer's almanac again, maybe it's got some amazing cures for what ails you, Xtians here swear by it!

[SteelCurtain]

Zicams! Eat them Zicams!

Or just take a couple of Zinc pellets a day. But the lozenges make your throat feel better, too.