What's everyone up to right now?

[Silver]

Getting into a dumb argument with somebody on a FB atheist group concerning circumcision. Basically, I'm fine with having been cut, but I'm OK if others are against it. The lady in question is vehemently against it and hopes I never breed (I shan't. I hate kids and hate the idea of marriage).

I feel the same as you. I am fine with having been cut, but according to these anti-cutters, we should be horrified that we were cut without our consent when we were babies. Fucking retarded people.

[c172]

Precisely the argument she has. I mean, I was a baby. I had no choice but to trust my biological parents with certain things, and the police and judge and jury to do what needs to be done if I were being abused.

Now? Listening to Kishi Bashi.

[Excited Penguin]

Being ok with something that happened to you without your consent after the fact doesn't exactly address the fact that it shouldn't have been done to you without your consent.

[Silver]

Being ok with something that happened to you without your consent after the fact doesn't exactly address the fact that it shouldn't have been done to you without your consent.

Actually, it does.

[Edwardo Piet]

What am I up to?

I'm up to hoping no one gets into a debate here on the What Is Everyone Up To thread.

That's what I'm up to.

[Silver]

Logically and legally, the parent has the right of consent toward the child's best interest.

Correct?

Therefore, the problem is not anything more than another silly battle in a world of problems because people are being fucking retarded.

[Excited Penguin]

Being ok with something that happened to you without your consent after the fact doesn't exactly address the fact that it shouldn't have been done to you without your consent.

Actually, it does.

No, it doesn't, since you might've not been O.K. with it. If you think it makes it O.K. simply because you don't mind that this particular thing was done to you, then imagine if they had done something else to you that you wouldn't like so much. Or put yourself in the shoes of the people who do mind it that it was done to them without their consent. So, see, it's not really just about you, it's about the practice being imposed on children who can't make those decisions for themselves yet.

[Excited Penguin]

Logically and legally, the parent has the right of consent toward the child's best interest.  

Correct?

Therefore, the problem is not anything more than another silly battle in a world of problems because people are being fucking retarded.

Just because they have the right to circumsize their kids and indoctrinate them into religion, for that matter, doesn't mean they should have the right to do so. You're giving too much credit to our current societal laws.

[Silver]

then imagine if they had done something else to you that you wouldn't like so much.

Bitch, there is a defining line between parents logically choosing properly and legally over a what can be done with their child and then going to the extreme of what I endured.

DO NOT FUCKING MESS WITH ME ON THIS.

I endured real pain, and it was not fucking being circumcised, so GROW THE FUCK UP.

[Excited Penguin]

My parents don't own me just because they gave birth to me. They never did and they never will. I'm not a pet. Same goes to you.