Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution

[Esquilax]

In origins, the establishment is blinded by a false assumption of No God.

In your threads, you are blinded by the false assumption that there is a god.

Please give evidence.

[Minimalist]

So Grace, what do you study, what is your education?

I'm guessing a fucking theology student. You know, totally worthless.

[Esquilax]

Just an observation.

The Christian presented a statement containing facts (statements that can be proved or disproved.) The Atheist response? was to attack the christian's character, education, and the general viablity of his ablity to make a claim that was typically atheistic in nature, rather than simply pairing the christian's facts against stronger reference material and properly disprooving the christian claim properly..

Jeez man, what is it that you want from us?

The OP presented a claim that was obviously false in numerous ways, and presented it with the arrogant assumption that it was irrefutable. She's been doing the same damn thing for several days now, across multiple threads, and has shown with every post that she makes not only a complete unwillingness to engage in conversation, but to even acknowledge when we post rebuttals. When she does deign to reply, she disregards the things she replies to out of hand without so much as forming a sentence as to why, and outright ignores anything that she might have difficulty with.

We've asked her what qualifications she has because we know she doesn't have any: the nonexistent intellectual rigor of her posts and unwillingness to research into mainstream science demonstrates this well enough. Anyone can have the arrogance to shit on real science like this when it disagrees with their presuppositions, but that doesn't mean their opinions are worth anything. We're just trying to ascertain exactly how little regard to give her.

If someone lies, they should be discredited. All Grace has done, is lie. Sorry, if you feel like every uninformed opinion should be given equal weighting with the rigorous, field tested research of men and women who sacrifice years to have the know how to speak on these subjects, but that's not how the game is played.

I also find it really hilarious that the guy who, just last week was whining to the mods about being misrepresented in what he said about Fidel's dad, has so little interest in continued, active misrepresentation the moment it applies to a position he disagrees with.

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Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution

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http://www.sciencemag.org/content/309/5735/764

Pesticide Resistance via Transposition-Mediated Adaptive Gene Truncation in Drosophila

To study adaptation, it is essential to identify multiple adaptive mutations and to characterize their molecular, phenotypic, selective, and ecological consequences. Here we describe a genomic screen for adaptive insertions of transposable elements in Drosophila. Using a pilot application of this screen, we have identified an adaptive transposable element insertion, which truncates a gene and apparently generates a functional protein in the process. The insertion of this transposable element confers increased resistance to an organophosphate pesticide and has spread in D. melanogaster recently.

I have no need to explain to you the concept of evolution aswell as the concept of mutation, let alone explain to you that a mutation is not just simply a thrid arm growing out of your back as a 8 year old may believe.

I simply have to show current examples of plants and animals gaining resistance to medication and pesticides and then wach you ignore this post since you dont have a viable explaination for current adaptations of species to it`s surroundings.

[Doubting Thomas]

Just like I brought up nylon-eating bacteria which I know will be ignored.

What about MRSA and other antibiotic-resistant bacteria? Now TGAC points out how some insects are becoming resistant to insecticides.

If evolution is a false theory just made up by God-denying scientists, how do you explain this very real phenomena? Evolution explains it, does your god?

Waiting for an answer.... (which likely will never come)

[SavedByGraceThruFaith]

Just like I brought up nylon-eating bacteria which I know will be ignored.

What about MRSA and other antibiotic-resistant bacteria? Now TGAC points out how some insects are becoming resistant to insecticides.

If evolution is a false theory just made up by God-denying scientists, how do you explain this very real phenomena? Evolution explains it, does your god?

Waiting for an answer.... (which likely will never come)

But the bacteria are still bacteria. So there is no proof there.

The dogs are still dogs.
Cats are still cats.

Sure, the allele distribution in the population may change due to selective breeding or a change in the environment causing certain alleles to be more advantageous, but that is just already existing alleles. You might even have a new allele from a mutation. But the gene itself already existed.

Give all know evidence of one kind changing into another kind.
Without that you have no evidence.

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Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution

bla bla bla bla bla bla bla Jesus bla bla bla

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/309/5735/764

Pesticide Resistance via Transposition-Mediated Adaptive Gene Truncation in Drosophila

To study adaptation, it is essential to identify multiple adaptive mutations and to characterize their molecular, phenotypic, selective, and ecological consequences. Here we describe a genomic screen for adaptive insertions of transposable elements in Drosophila. Using a pilot application of this screen, we have identified an adaptive transposable element insertion, which truncates a gene and apparently generates a functional protein in the process. The insertion of this transposable element confers increased resistance to an organophosphate pesticide and has spread in D. melanogaster recently.

I have no need to explain to you the concept of evolution aswell as the concept of mutation, let alone explain to you that a mutation is not just simply a thrid arm growing out of your back as a 8 year old may believe.

I simply have to show current examples of plants and animals gaining resistance to medication and pesticides and then wach you ignore this post since you dont have a viable explaination for current adaptations of species to it`s surroundings.

Just selection of existing alleles or a mutation causing an new allele.
But they are still the same kind.

Provide one example of one kind becoming another kind.

[TheBeardedDude]

What's a "kind"?

[Bad Wolf]

Kinds don't exist you stupid fucking moron

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Provide one example of one kind becoming another kind.

What is your definition of kind?

[SavedByGraceThruFaith]

Provide one example of one kind becoming another kind.

What is your definition of kind?

How about a dog growing wings and becoming a flying creature.