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June 7, 2014 at 1:35 pm
(June 7, 2014 at 6:22 am)Tonus Wrote: I am amused at the idea that god didn't form the Earth or moon; he slammed an object into the Earth to help it form into a habitable planet while at the same time providing a serviceable satellite to manage the tides. He must have spent centuries calculating exactly how large the missile had to be, and what angle to strike the Earth at, and how fast to make it move... everything needed to guarantee that he'd get precisely the Earth we got.
I wonder how many "almost" Earths there are in the universe, as god kept trying to figure out how to do that and failing over and over because dammit, the angle was off by this much!
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June 7, 2014 at 2:00 pm
(June 7, 2014 at 2:47 am)Stimbo Wrote: What the hell do you think you're proving with this stuff? Because it's not what you think it is, I'll tell you that for nothing. you really need to pick-up your game, it's been taking a precipitous drop recently.
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June 7, 2014 at 2:03 pm
(June 7, 2014 at 2:00 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (June 7, 2014 at 2:47 am)Stimbo Wrote: What the hell do you think you're proving with this stuff? Because it's not what you think it is, I'll tell you that for nothing. you really need to pick-up your game, it's been taking a precipitous drop recently.
I must say you've been consistent.
But I suppose if you start at the bottom that's not really very good.
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June 7, 2014 at 2:28 pm
(June 7, 2014 at 2:00 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (June 7, 2014 at 2:47 am)Stimbo Wrote: What the hell do you think you're proving with this stuff? Because it's not what you think it is, I'll tell you that for nothing. you really need to pick-up your game, it's been taking a precipitous drop recently.
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June 7, 2014 at 2:38 pm
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Never mind - misread the post.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
June 7, 2014 at 3:39 pm
(June 7, 2014 at 1:35 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (June 7, 2014 at 6:22 am)Tonus Wrote: I am amused at the idea that god didn't form the Earth or moon; he slammed an object into the Earth to help it form into a habitable planet while at the same time providing a serviceable satellite to manage the tides. He must have spent centuries calculating exactly how large the missile had to be, and what angle to strike the Earth at, and how fast to make it move... everything needed to guarantee that he'd get precisely the Earth we got.
I wonder how many "almost" Earths there are in the universe, as god kept trying to figure out how to do that and failing over and over because dammit, the angle was off by this much!
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
June 7, 2014 at 6:28 pm
(June 7, 2014 at 2:00 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (June 7, 2014 at 2:47 am)Stimbo Wrote: What the hell do you think you're proving with this stuff? Because it's not what you think it is, I'll tell you that for nothing. you really need to pick-up your game, it's been taking a precipitous drop recently.
Bollocks to that. My question still stands. What the hell do you think this shit proves?
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
June 9, 2014 at 11:47 pm
(June 7, 2014 at 2:47 am)Stimbo Wrote: What the hell do you think you're proving with this stuff? Because it's not what you think it is, I'll tell you that for nothing. that the moon formation event and the moon itself provides the earth with 1. magnetic field, 2. radioactivity to drive plate tectonics, 3. stabilizes the earth's axial tilt, thus avoiding the chaotic zone - http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v36...615a0.html - all three are vital to advanced life.
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June 10, 2014 at 12:02 am
(June 9, 2014 at 11:47 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (June 7, 2014 at 2:47 am)Stimbo Wrote: What the hell do you think you're proving with this stuff? Because it's not what you think it is, I'll tell you that for nothing. that the moon formation event and the moon itself provides the earth with 1. magnetic field, 2. radioactivity to drive plate tectonics, 3. stabilizes the earth's axial tilt, thus avoiding the chaotic zone - http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v36...615a0.html - all three are vital to advanced life.
The kind of life we see on earth. If any of those factors were different, the life would be too.
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June 10, 2014 at 5:53 am
(June 9, 2014 at 11:47 pm)snowtracks Wrote: that the moon formation event and the moon itself provides the earth with 1. magnetic field, 2. radioactivity to drive plate tectonics, 3. stabilizes the earth's axial tilt, thus avoiding the chaotic zone - http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v36...615a0.html - all three are vital to advanced life. They are vital to the particular life forms that evolved in that environment, which should come as no surprise at all. You pretend to grow tired of the puddle/hole metaphor, yet you continue to display exactly the ignorance that it describes. It's not that the universe or the planet were properly prepared for the life that would come to live on it. Life developed in accordance with the environment it found itself in.
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