Christians forgive themselves

[Esquilax]

What fits the criteria of a true Christian and what is it based on? Is it regulated? If not why not? If so how so?

If only we could get a Catholic and a Protestant to post their True Christian criteria here, it'd be so much fun watching them fight when their lists end up (shockingly!) being different, yet somehow both definitive and binding.

Or a liberal christian and a conservative christian. Or a fundamentalist and literally any other kind. And so on, and so forth.

It's almost as if the entire argument is just a ruse to cover for any inadequacy one happens to find!

[Drich]

....and if you bother to keep reading she also says none of which was possible with out the forgiveness Christ offered her. Which is not an example of a forgiveness that originates from with in ones self. That why I asked if you had any example of the self forgiveness you identified, since your fb example was not an example of the self forgiveness you described, because again the girl accredited God for the forgiveness she allowed herself to have.

So I ask again what else you got?

Ok Drich ur being a dick here. Well for a start you just said that God forgives all so the girl esentially said.

'I cant forgive people but hey God will forgive me for not forgiving.'

Literally put - The girl implied forgiveness of herself, I dont see God agreeing personally to her she just implied that she was forgiven?!

So in essenence she is playing GOD!

Read what she wrote again.

"I would not be able to forgive 1/2 the things I do if not for God.."

In essence She would not be able to forgive her self if not for the love, grace and forgiveness of God.

Meaning she can not forgive herself unless God first forgave her.

[Faith No More]

A true christian is whichever christian your talking to at that moment.

Hey, if you're going to use my material, at least give me credit for it.

[Simon Moon]

My statement comes from my knowledge of Christianity and 'SM' knowing nothing about it, he gives an opinion through his biased view.

GC

Are you going to tell me what I got wrong? Or just continue with your assertions that I misunderstand Christianity without explaining my misunderstanding?

Please correct me.

[ThomM]

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Your lack of understanding of Christianity is astounding, especially when you try to define it.

GC
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Actually - xtianity is a complete bunch of nonsense based on NOTHING that has been proven to be true - and LOTS that has been proven to have been true.

Xtians have had 2000 years - with almost unlimited funds - using some of the best minds of the times - to find ONE piece of testable and verifiable PROOF that a god exists - much less that it is their god.

Every year - their god is reduced to less and less involvement in our reality when more and more of the bible passages are proven to be fairy tales. There is NOT a single document from the GOLDEN AGE OF ROME - from which we have millions of documents - from the supposed time of the christ that even mentions his name.

Now - IF you can PROVIDE REAL PROOF that we do not understand your DELUSION - by all means post it here - proof that a god exists - is it your god and cannot be any other. YOU will of course - attack me - because you have NONE.

[ronedee]

A "true" Christian is the one who [lives by] Christs' teachings.

I can't believe I have to spoon feed you guys. You can say you are anything.... maybe even an atheist! But you might be a scumbag!

Actually, its harder to tell in your cases. At least there is a standard for Chrisitans.

Can we be deceived? You bet! But usually not for long. You can't serve 2 gods. One eventually wins out.

But you see we're back at the major crux of the problem. You are clueless to Gods ways. We Christians have the Holy Spirit to guide us! You? Again....its hard to tell. You're as scattered as scared sheep!

I do wish you could experience the Holy Spirit! Even for a moment. Its like you woke-up up from a deep, dreamless sleep!

And, I wish I could tell you more about experiencing the Holy Spirit! But alas...you would just shit all over it!

God either wants you... or not! I, nor YOU have anything to do with it!

This is basically dick-waving through an iron fence....with neither of us wanting to step onto the other side of it!

[T.J.]

A "true" Christian is the one who [lives by] Christs' teachings.

So there are no true Christians.

[ronedee]

A "true" Christian is the one who [lives by] Christs' teachings.

So there are no true Christians.

Yup! Sure... you can move on now! You don't need answers. You have them all.

[Godscreated]

My statement comes from my knowledge of Christianity and 'SM' knowing nothing about it, he gives an opinion through his biased view.

GC

Are you going to tell me what I got wrong? Or just continue with your assertions that I misunderstand Christianity without explaining my misunderstanding?

Please correct me.

Actually I do not have to point out your mistakes, every Christian here sees them plainly, and the non believers do not care how many mistakes you make, they'll give you kudos for all sorts of stupid stuff.

GC

[Esquilax]

A "true" Christian is the one who [lives by] Christs' teachings.

"Slaves obey your masters," - Christ's teachings.

All of his teachings, Ronny?

Are you going to tell me what I got wrong? Or just continue with your assertions that I misunderstand Christianity without explaining my misunderstanding?

It's part of his shell game: since he doesn't actually have a satisfying answer to any question or contention that has been posed to him here and elsewhere, it's simply easier to act haughty and be careful not to tip one's hand. But we can all see the lack of intellectual content in his posts; it's just frustrating to see him pretend he's some kind of theological genius.