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Shroud of Tourin
#21
RE: Shroud of Tourin
(November 22, 2013 at 6:03 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Yeah, I remember back in the 80's when the shroud was dated to around 1100 CE or so. All the Christians were running around saying "Carbon-14 dating isn't reliable! It doesn't work!"

Before the OP calls RationalWiki a "dumb source that doesn't make any sense" perhaps you should read it, especially this part:

Quote:No examples of complex herringbone weave are known from the time of Jesus when, in any case, burial cloths tended to be of plain weave. In addition, Jewish burial practice utilized — and the Gospel of John specifically describes for Jesus — multiple burial wrappings with a separate cloth over the face:
“”Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie, And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself...
—John 20:1:6, King James Version

Even the bible disproves the shroud as being real.


In 2009, Israeli archaeologist, Shimon Gibson released details of a find which he had made nearly 10 years earlier of an actual first century burial shroud from Jerusalem.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/12/1...index.html

Quote:Gibson said the remains of the man covered in the cloth consisted of different wrappings for the body and the head, which was consistent with burial practices of the era. He also said research had shown that the weave of the cloth was a simple one, much different from the more complex Shroud of Turin's.

Whoever cobbled together the gospel of "john" knew more about first-century jewish burial practices than the xtian who painted the shroud of Turin a thousand years later.
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#22
RE: Shroud of Tourin
From the RationalWiki article:

Quote:Despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary, Pope Benedict XVI declared it "the authentic burial robe" of Christ.[1] It is unknown whether this declaration was made while casting +2 Papal infallibility.

Of course he did. The church has been holding onto the damn thing for centuries, you think they're just going to admit that it's a huge fake?
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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#23
RE: Shroud of Tourin
It's been a while since we've had a reference to the Panzer Pope.
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