Vaccines are a plot by big pharma!

[Welsh cake]

FatAndFaithless, it does matter on some level the person you're arguing with, cares and appreciates your concerns...

...otherwise... well... we've just wasting our time.

[FatAndFaithless]

FatAndFaithless, it does matter on some level the person you're arguing with, cares and appreciates your concerns...

...otherwise... well... we've just wasting our time.

Just pointing out that saying "you don't care if people tell you what to do with your own body" is a pretty grave misrepresentation of the argument.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

With regards to autism

I'm not talking about autism.

Well I was, and have been this entire thread as that has been the main contention on MMR since it's implementation.

I want to ask, what are your actual objections to MMR? You've cited choice but that's generally a smoke screen for people who believe there is something more nefarious. I can't believe you're objecting to something that's cheaper for the NHS and by reduction you, so what is it?

Its choice.

The single vaccines were safer for people with weaker immune systems. My sister had the MMR jab and the damn 5-in-1 DTaP/IPV/Hib vaccine, and she's never been the same since. She gets colds... constantly, and never bounces back from colds as quickly as she used to.

But what do you care? You don't seem to have any objections being told what to do with your own body.

I'm sorry to hear about your sister, and I'm not going to comment on a topic I know nothing about regarding your sister's own personal health.

However I object to your insinuation that "I don't have objections to being told what to do with [my] own body." You don't know anything about me so I'll thank you not to presume and make factually incorrect statements about me.

[Welsh cake]

I honestly don't care anymore, whether you agree or disagree.

Talking to you when I've had a drink is probably the worse thing I can do.

[psychoslice]

Now listen dick, I have said that I was a victum of vaccination, there is a hell of a lot information out there, you only need to Google it, there is a lot for it and against it. There are even doctors that won't vaccine their own children, its all out there, read both sides of the story, don't just except what FDA say's, hell they make their money out of the sick, and if your not sick they will find a way to make you sick.

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It all boils down to what we believe, I let you believe what you want to believe, and I expect you to do the same, if I am wrong so be it, just like the tobbaco industry time will tell what is poison and what isn't.

There is absolutely no evidence that vaccination harmed you in any way.

Your belief that that was the cause of your medical problems does not make it true.

So do you believe anyone has ever been harmed by being vaccinated?.

[Cato]

So do you believe anyone has ever been harmed by being vaccinated?.

Ignoring allergic reactions, only when the person administrating the shot gets a running start and tomahawks your ass. You know, the whole Pressure = Force/Area bit.

[psychoslice]

So do you believe anyone has ever been harmed by being vaccinated?.

Ignoring allergic reactions, only when the person administrating the shot gets a running start and tomahawks your ass. You know, the whole Pressure = Force/Area bit.

Don't fart around with words, you know the answer is yes.

[Losty]

I have never heard of anyone being harmed by vaccines besides from allergic reactions. Well, not from any reliable source at least.

[rexbeccarox]

Ignoring allergic reactions, only when the person administrating the shot gets a running start and tomahawks your ass. You know, the whole Pressure = Force/Area bit.

Don't fart around with words, you know the answer is yes.

Psycho, you still haven't addressed the post hoc, ergo propter hoc fallacy you're working with here. Seriously, you have no evidence that vaccinations caused your health problems. I'm sorry you dealt with those things, but you have yet to put forward any believable causation.

[psychoslice]

Don't fart around with words, you know the answer is yes.

Psycho, you still haven't addressed the post hoc, ergo propter hoc fallacy you're working with here. Seriously, you have no evidence that vaccinations caused your health problems. I'm sorry you dealt with those things, but you have yet to put forward any believable causation.

I'm getting a bit sick of all this, I have shared my thoughts and that is where its going to finish, some things cannot be proven, but common sense prevails. I believe that vaccines did cause my fits, migraines, and schizophrenia, you can believe whatever you want, you can be right if that is what you want, I don't give a shit.