Aleph Bet and DNA

[max-greece]

Once you arrive at a simple evident truth, it is pointless to assign intermediaries or partners to that truth. I can if you like.

Start with the premise. DNA is an alphabet. God claims the title Father, which is Aleph Bet, or the one producing the information that is then sent out. Word is a chain and sequence of information (letter), mirrored by the sperm traveling to the egg. This is mirrored by proteins made from amino acids (letters) of DNA in union with the other sex chromosome. There is a catalyst between the letters and the words. Water is the catalyst, or medium. God also claims this title as Aleph Mem, or strong water. In chemistry and in physics.....

Couple of things:

1. There are no amino acids in DNA. Amino acids are the building blocks of proteins. DNA is made of Nucleic Acids.

2. The vast majority of DNA is non-functional. Some of it probably had function much earlier on in our evolutionary history but a large proportion of it appears to have never had a function. Odd of God don't you think? We write sentences made up of words, made up of letters, without any meaningless junk. God it appears can't do that.

3. I am not sure what you mean by the "union with the other sex chromosome." If you mean pairing there doesn't appear to be too much magical in that (over and above the pairing of the other 44 Chromosomes). If you mean some kind of transferring of genetic materials between the Chromosomes then you'd better refer to a decent biology textbook.

4. Why would God's word in the form of DNA be so much bigger for a single cellular creature like Amoeba Dubia than it is for humanity? Was God learning on the job? The DNA for the above amoeba is 100 times larger than our own.

What you have is a clever linking of things (religion and genetics in this case) that appears to have all the hallmarks of something but actually doesn't, other than a testament to human ingenuity and imagination.

[StrongWaters]

You don't understand what a metaphor is.

Next he'll be telling us he saw the word "Elohim" appear in his alphabet soup.

It is interesting that Elohim is formed from Aleph Bet: Elohim

[WesOlsen]

Once you arrive at a simple evident truth, it is pointless to assign intermediaries or partners to that truth. I can if you like.

Start with the premise. DNA is an alphabet. God claims the title Father, which is Aleph Bet, or the one producing the information that is then sent out. Word is a chain and sequence of information (letter), mirrored by the sperm traveling to the egg. This is mirrored by proteins made from amino acids (letters) of DNA in union with the other sex chromosome. There is a catalyst between the letters and the words. Water is the catalyst, or medium. God also claims this title as Aleph Mem, or strong water. In chemistry and in physics, chirality demonstrates my premise with no room for argument. The only way for two asymmetrical things to be superimposed on the other is with a symmetrical catalyst. You suggest there is no connection. I have demonstrated that there is. Scientific observation confirms me on every level. If you would like to deny, you must first show error in my premise.

Apart from translation invariance and symmetry laws, none of this is possible. God claims the laws and mirrors them with parable and proverb, which are outlines for the simple mind to understand. For instance, when God states that He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, he is demonstrating invariant symmetry. Again, evident. The proof is above and below. What I show you is the root, or the fact that no other transitional intermediaries are needed to reduce as a foundation. Additionally, the higher axiom then resolves any contradiction or paradox below.

From the mouth of the Nobel Lauriates, here is the digital universe. It is founded on letters and word, or sequences of information forming logical symmetries. Those symmetries are translational by nature and never change, but instead change what they reveal. Light cannot be seen. It reveals what it hits. The light does not change.

For more on this, you might want to educate yourself on symmetry laws.

Invariance and Symmetry are Parallel to What God Claims about Himself.

The OP stands. You now have more proof to work around. Simply saying it is not true is empty.

What's in the well always comes up in the bucket.

There are a number of fundamental problems with your bombastic claim. Firstly, DNA is not true language. Abrahamic types love to assert that DNA is language, and that language must always be programmed by something or someone. Both assertions are completely false. DNA does not follow a power law. It communicates certain information but not in the same sense, therefore DNA is technically cipher, not language. Secondly, your understanding of DNA synthesis and the role (and omission) of other protein coders, such as RNA, is crude and incomplete. The comparison between a word and a sperm swimming is very unusual, as someone who works in pathology for a living i've never heard anyone comparing the act of a sperm transmitting chromosonal information to a word transmitting information. Human languages follow power laws, and words, sentences and scripts are subjectively interpreted at times, DNA does not follow the same rules.

"This is mirrored by proteins made from amino acids (letters) of DNA in union with the other sex chromosome"

Again, you assert that amino acids are perfectly synonymous with human letters. They aren't. And what about the other 22 pairs of chromosomes?

"God claims the laws and mirrors them with parable and proverb, which are outlines for the simple mind to understand. For instance, when God states that He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, he is demonstrating invariant symmetry. Again, evident. The proof is above and below. "

God's word was demonstrably penned by men, not directly by god. This is hearsay not revelation. Claims on their own are not evidence for claims. You cannot prove what your particular god is stating because we can be sure that everything we have in written form was put there by humans. Therefore biblical literature is not evidence for god any more than the qur'an is evidence for Allah. Until you can prove that god said X, Y and Z we cannot even begin to move the argument towards step 2 (The DNA shit), although step 2 has already been torn to shreds just for our pleasure. Every time you say that "god says blah blah" what you actually mean is "I say blah blah because i'm convinced by some silly primitive fairy tales, penned by the scribes of jewish elders, who spend most of their time talking about mundane desert shit rather than proper mathematics or molecular pathology."

Your leaps are wild, your logic is completely barmy. You have demonstrated nothing other than your incredible capacity for gullibility.

[max-greece]

WesOlsen,

That was better then mine. Nice one.

[StrongWaters]

Once you arrive at a simple evident truth, it is pointless to assign intermediaries or partners to that truth. I can if you like.

Start with the premise. DNA is an alphabet. God claims the title Father, which is Aleph Bet, or the one producing the information that is then sent out. Word is a chain and sequence of information (letter), mirrored by the sperm traveling to the egg. This is mirrored by proteins made from amino acids (letters) of DNA in union with the other sex chromosome. There is a catalyst between the letters and the words. Water is the catalyst, or medium. God also claims this title as Aleph Mem, or strong water. In chemistry and in physics.....

Couple of things:

1. There are no amino acids in DNA. Amino acids are the building blocks of proteins. DNA is made of Nucleic Acids.

Technically, "Under the genetic code, RNA strands are translated to specify the sequence of amino acids within proteins. These RNA strands are initially created using DNA strands as a template in a process called transcription." WIKIPEDIA

The temple / template is DNA. I used the root and not the branch. In any case, it is a transcription process, just as the scribes use in the temple. Thank you for finding another parallel.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Err, no you don't. That's now how academic or logical inquiry work.

As Esquilax has already tried to elucidate to you, simply having a position does infer any sort of validity.

Some positions are so baseless and absurd that they can be dismissed outright, doubly so when do verifiable evidence is not produced to back up the assertion. Indeed, the burden of proof is entirely on you to present. Thus far your claims are irresolvable precisely because there is no evidence aside assertion. For this reason, they can be easily dismissed as nonsense until such a time that verifiable evidence can be forwarded.

Case in point. I am the abrahamic god.

Disprove my claim.

I am surprised that you didn't already understand this basic function of logic.

Once you arrive at a simple evident truth, it is pointless to assign intermediaries or partners to that truth. I can if you like.

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The OP stands. You now have more proof to work around. Simply saying it is not true is empty.

Re read what I wrote. I never said that it wasn't true. I said that, so long as there's no evidence to back up your claim (there is no evidence), it can be dismissed as a baseless assertion.

You inferred god in your second paragraph. No such thing exists until proven.

There is nothing self-evident in your thesis. To claim that there is is illogical.

[StrongWaters]

Once you arrive at a simple evident truth, it is pointless to assign intermediaries or partners to that truth. I can if you like.

Start with the premise. DNA is an alphabet. God claims the title Father, which is Aleph Bet, or the one producing the information that is then sent out. Word is a chain and sequence of information (letter), mirrored by the sperm traveling to the egg. This is mirrored by proteins made from amino acids (letters) of DNA in union with the other sex chromosome. There is a catalyst between the letters and the words. Water is the catalyst, or medium. God also claims this title as Aleph Mem, or strong water. In chemistry and in physics.....

Couple of things:

2. The vast majority of DNA is non-functional. Some of it probably had function much earlier on in our evolutionary history but a large proportion of it appears to have never had a function. Odd of God don't you think? We write sentences made up of words, made up of letters, without any meaningless junk. God it appears can't do that.

Probably? Alephbet is the metaphor that fits the premise. It is accurate to the end result. It appears? It is evident. No amount of speculation on your part can show otherwise. I have ALL science and observation on my side here.

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Once you arrive at a simple evident truth, it is pointless to assign intermediaries or partners to that truth. I can if you like.

Start with the premise. DNA is an alphabet. God claims the title Father, which is Aleph Bet, or the one producing the information that is then sent out. Word is a chain and sequence of information (letter), mirrored by the sperm traveling to the egg. This is mirrored by proteins made from amino acids (letters) of DNA in union with the other sex chromosome. There is a catalyst between the letters and the words. Water is the catalyst, or medium. God also claims this title as Aleph Mem, or strong water. In chemistry and in physics.....

Couple of things:

3. I am not sure what you mean by the "union with the other sex chromosome." If you mean pairing there doesn't appear to be too much magical in that (over and above the pairing of the other 44 Chromosomes). If you mean some kind of transferring of genetic materials between the Chromosomes then you'd better refer to a decent biology textbook.

There are 2 pairs of 22 chromosomes and 2 sex chromosomes.

[WesOlsen]

Given that you only have a wikipedia level understanding of DNA, and have refused to respond to my post above, just take it from someone who works in pathology for a living that you don't know what you're talking about. This link should put the case to bed:

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB180.html

You believe your fairy tales if you like, we've no time for bedtime stories here.

[StrongWaters]

Once you arrive at a simple evident truth, it is pointless to assign intermediaries or partners to that truth. I can if you like.

What you have is a clever linking of things (religion and genetics in this case) that appears to have all the hallmarks of something but actually doesn't, other than a testament to human ingenuity and imagination.

There are 22 letters of Hebrew and 24 of Greek. Hebrew is concrete and Greek is abstract. They are the foundation for both our understanding of nature and mathematics. In Greek, all the letters represent an aspect of mathematical understanding. For instance, Phi is, among other things, the golden ration of 1:1.618. There are 46 chromosomes. 2 pairs of 22 and 2 sex. When the body is complete, it is East and West (Chirality). This is mirrored to our language because the Tree of Life and the Tree of knowledge are both linked above and below. DNA is a shadow of the information in light.

Again, see the video of the Nobel Laureates I linked in this thread. You will not win this argument. Logic, reason and common sense will rise against the density of ignorance. No imagination needed. It is evident. Scientific theory that denies creation takes imagination.

Truth is simple. Aleph Bet

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Given that you only have a wikipedia level understanding of DNA, and have refused to respond to my post above, just take it from someone who works in pathology for a living that you don't know what you're talking about. This link should put the case to bed:

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB180.html

You believe your fairy tales if you like, we've no time for bedtime stories here.

Fallacy. Where is your context? The OP stands as evident. I have produced enough evidence for anyone to see this from logic, reason and common sense. Did you watch the video? These guys would disagree with you.

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Once you arrive at a simple evident truth, it is pointless to assign intermediaries or partners to that truth. I can if you like.

Start with the premise. DNA is an alphabet. God claims the title Father, which is Aleph Bet, or the one producing the information that is then sent out. Word is a chain and sequence of information (letter), mirrored by the sperm traveling to the egg. This is mirrored by proteins made from amino acids (letters) of DNA in union with the other sex chromosome. There is a catalyst between the letters and the words. Water is the catalyst, or medium. God also claims this title as Aleph Mem, or strong water. In chemistry and in physics, chirality demonstrates my premise with no room for argument. The only way for two asymmetrical things to be superimposed on the other is with a symmetrical catalyst. You suggest there is no connection. I have demonstrated that there is. Scientific observation confirms me on every level. If you would like to deny, you must first show error in my premise.

Apart from translation invariance and symmetry laws, none of this is possible. God claims the laws and mirrors them with parable and proverb, which are outlines for the simple mind to understand. For instance, when God states that He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, he is demonstrating invariant symmetry. Again, evident. The proof is above and below. What I show you is the root, or the fact that no other transitional intermediaries are needed to reduce as a foundation. Additionally, the higher axiom then resolves any contradiction or paradox below.

From the mouth of the Nobel Lauriates, here is the digital universe. It is founded on letters and word, or sequences of information forming logical symmetries. Those symmetries are translational by nature and never change, but instead change what they reveal. Light cannot be seen. It reveals what it hits. The light does not change.

For more on this, you might want to educate yourself on symmetry laws.

Invariance and Symmetry are Parallel to What God Claims about Himself.

The OP stands. You now have more proof to work around. Simply saying it is not true is empty.

What's in the well always comes up in the bucket.

There are a number of fundamental problems with your bombastic claim. Firstly, DNA is not true language. Abrahamic types love to assert that DNA is language, and that language must always be programmed by something or someone. Both assertions are completely false. DNA does not follow a power law. It communicates certain information but not in the same sense, therefore DNA is technically cipher, not language. Secondly, your understanding of DNA synthesis and the role (and omission) of other protein coders, such as RNA, is crude and incomplete.

Look here strawman, you know perfectly well that I was using the letters and words as analogies for what they represent. God has done the same. By this verse, we know what God is implying with a simple explanation. By the entire context of scripture (Creation Narrative), God is outlining all of creation and law by parable. You know this. Your implication above is a straw man approach to deflect the premise. The premise is evident. A higher power has left us with the evidence of how we were created. Further, all of science then confirms that Word (strings of information with design and purpose) are at the heart of Creation.

This premise is evident by logic, reason and simple common sense. You know what you are doing here. You are twisting what is easily seen with common sense. You need to be honest with yourself first.

John 1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

The funny thing in this will emerge to you if you look close. Darkness did not comprehend. Define a hologram. How does the light reveal the word (information) enclosed in a hologram?

Will you answer simply, or twist your explanation to deflect what is evident? Why not simply be honest with yourself on this. It is evident.

[StrongWaters]

Once you arrive at a simple evident truth, it is pointless to assign intermediaries or partners to that truth. I can if you like.

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The OP stands. You now have more proof to work around. Simply saying it is not true is empty.

Re read what I wrote. I never said that it wasn't true. I said that, so long as there's no evidence to back up your claim (there is no evidence), it can be dismissed as a baseless assertion.

You inferred god in your second paragraph. No such thing exists until proven.

There is nothing self-evident in your thesis. To claim that there is is illogical.

Faith is required to collapse wave function. I will not deny this. Apart from faith, no particle is brought into reality. I use this analogy because it is the connection to science and faith. Science brings theory into hope, then confirms that wave function through investigation. When a confirmation is made, previous axioms are resolved below into a new single higher axiom. This is how truth rises.

By contrast, what I am showing you is the parable of what is observed. While science still lags behind on this, it will catch up. Again, I post this video to show you the contrast. Until you have the faith in what is indeterminate, the hope will not become a reality. As you say, it is unseen by you. There is a reason for this.

Hebrews 11

11 Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see. 2 This is what the ancients were commended for.

3 By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.

The reason for this is here:

John 1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

You cannot and will not comprehend the light until you move into the light. You must first be revealed. Until that point, you are the child in this verse.

1 Corinthians 13

9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

You are fully known by God. Light reveals what it hits. Until you read that light by looking at yourself first, you are blinded by the self. Pride is the thing to be overcome.

In 2 Timothy 3, this is revealed as the beast (Animal nature).

3 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.

There are 18 markers (mark this!). 6+6+6 = 18. Unless these are overcome, there is only darkness.

To you, words, words, words. To those in the light, revelation and enlightenment. You must turn to face God. How?

"According to Hebrew tradition, the past is in front, and the future is behind. The present is a gift. The past is in front because we are facing it. The future is behind because it has not happened for us yet. The word “aharit” (End) comes after, later or behind. What is in front has already happened. "

This is something I discovered while researching the word Aharit. Salvation is the hope of future events that are determined. Collapsing wave function is determining what is indeterminate. We call it choice. Facing Hope is a future that is seen. Faith, Hope and Love. The greatest of these lessons is the end, or love.

Tav is the Cross, or the expression of God's love for us.



We must turn or darkness blinds. Light must reveal what it hits.

John 3:19

19 And this is the condemnation: that Light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

You already know the first part of this: John 3:16

Scientific proof is in this video. It is evident. Aleph Bet is the Word that creates our reality. God is the Father, Mother and Son. The Son is the bread, or what we share for Life.